Dug Pedal vs. YYZ Pedal vs. Keep what I got?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Toddbass65, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. Toddbass65

    Toddbass65 Supporting Member

    Oct 21, 2012
    So talk me into, out of....whatever!
    Currently have a Tech21 Bass Fly Rig. Serves me well, love the compressor and the tuner. It's all I use. I play in a 3 piece power trio covering 60s through 90s Classic Rock. I also play in a 5 piece pop/ classic rock band with keyboards, guitars. I feel the sans amp on my fly rig is ok, but I'd like to stand out a little more in the mix, especially in the trio band.
    Really looking at either the Dug or the YYZ pedal for that.
    Like to think I might be able to replace the fly rig with one.
    Ideas? I know the YYZ has no tuner, so have to go back to my pitch black for that on my board. But it's not a deal breaker. No stores near me have either, so trying not an option. Any experience from others in my genres and fitting in the mix? Play everything from ZZTOP to Tom Petty, to CCR to Styx to dance tunes like Bruno Mars, 70s disco. What say you folks ??? Thanks in advance !
  2. tonymcbony


    Mar 21, 2006
    I can only talk to the DP3X but it's more flexible than it first seems. I play it in a church context and gets a little sizzle whilst keep the lows solid. It can do clanky dUg tone but doesn't have to. It's got baked in tone that will help you slot in well. YYZ seems a lot flatter in the mids from what I've heard, which would make it a great dirt pedal and is totally on my GAS list. DP3X is more of a flavoured preamp.

    I've used the DP3X as my only pedal on stage and it performed very well. It was refreshing to not crack out the board!
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  3. David Sutkin

    David Sutkin Schroeder Cabs and Maruszczyk bass artist Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 20, 2017
    Brooklyn, NY
    While I don't own the YYZ pedal, I did demo it at winter NAMM and was NOT impressed at all ... and I really wanted to be impressed by it. In all fairness, the demo bass at the Tech21 booth was a low end Schecter and the NAMM hall in the middle of the afternoon madness is not a great environment for audio clarity ...... but still, very unimpressive.

    On the other hand, I do own a Tech21 DP3X and it lives on my board, it gets used at every rehearsal, every jam, every gig .... and I play in a 3 piece, prog, alt rock project ... I can dial up a fat and clanky Chris Squire tones or even fatter and clankier Dug tones or just some super warm, velvety goodness with the Dug ...

    I love my Dug pedal, could be one of the best pedals I own for tone shaping and FWIW, I've been through all the Darkglass stuff as well and the Dug is still king of them all ..... although YMMV :)

    Good luck! :thumbsup:
  4. dannybuoy


    Aug 3, 2005
    The DP3X slays in a hard rock context, leaving a big wide gap in the midrange to not fight with the guitars and vocals, but with a big punchy bottom and crispy top end that pokes out above the other instruments.

    Comparing that with the VTDI and YYZ, I think both of those sound better in a solo context - but put in a mix and you'll see the DP3X just slots in better, helping to glue all the sounds together without fading into the background or battling other instruments.

    It's not the best choice for all tunes though, and the mix switch might not save you either due to the drastic EQ/volume changes required after stepping on it. Personally I'd have the DP3X on board for modern sounds and ether the VTDI / YYZ / Aguilar Tonehammer for more retro tones.
  5. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

    This! I got the DP3X for full-on dUgTone and it does that beautifully of course, but as tony explained it doesn't have to. Yes, it always has some coloration to it, but doesn't have to sound metal. I've used the DP3X for blues, pop, country, etc, by dialing back the grind. I can actually alternate between clank and mellower (but still overdriven) tones just by using the passive tone control on my bass.

    P.S. I love the demos I've heard of the YYZ -- doesn't seem to have the aggression of the dUg, but also seems to have less coloration. I look forward to comparing it with my other dirt pedals (the dUg especially) and seeing how it works at the gig, in the mix. I don't yet own it but it's at the top of my wish list.
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