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Dunlop DBFS 45/105 flatwound Strings - Uhm...

Hi.
I've used several models of flatwound strings from Fender, Pyramid, La Bella, D'Addario, TI and so on ..
Recently, several threads were created talking about the qualities of Dunlop DBFS flatwound strings, especially when compared to the, seemingly, more expensive TI JF344.
I then decided to buy a set of these strings and I put in a jazz bass on mine.
The strings are smoother than Chromes and, probably, slightly smoother than TI JF344.
As somebody else pointed out already, the strings are provided with an excellent plastic wrapping at both ends of each string, which is sufficiently elastic to prevent from cracking or delaminating when used multiple times, which is substantially better than those loose silk ends which leave the bare steel exposed.
These are stainless steel flatwound strings; I don't know whether their core is hexagonal or round but they are definitely characterised by a substantially higher tension than TU JF344, which they are usually compared to in terms of overall performances .. these for me is not exactly a positive feature as I was personally looking for a, possibly, cheaper alternative to TI JF344.
For what concerns the strings' tone and playability, well, they are extremely "zingy", forget about warm vintage tones with these strings IMO.
They sound too much metallic for my taste, more than Fender flats for instance; I don't know how much time it will take to them to settle but what should I do? Asking somebody else to play the bass until this condition is achieved?
Honestly speaking, it's too early to express a final judgement on these strings (I put them on yesterday) but, so far, I wasn't totally positively impressed by them, and, in absolute, they are far away from being considered an alternative to the magnificent TI JF344.
 
You need to give them a chance to break in before you pass judgment on them. I have them on one of my P Basses, and they are plenty warm sounding, and feel great to me. I don't see how you can say you can't get vintage tones from these strings. I can get a nice Motown sound out of them, but they can also get bright and punchy(for flats) with the tone knob too if I need them to as well. Which makes them useful for both older and more modern music. Most flats (even Labellas) will be zingy when you first put them on, and need to be broken in before they warm up so to speak. But I could never use TI flats, too expensive for my blood, and from what I have learned, waaay too loose in tension for my playing. And from the demos, I've heard on YT, TI's just don't sound all that special to me IMO. But If you want old school vintage right out of the box, with little to no break in period, you could try light gauge GHS P Flats, or Pyramids. But give the Dunlops a chance to break in.
 
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As ve said .. I've tried a lot of flatwound strings, cheap, expensive, intermediate .. don't quite need advice on how each kind of flatwound string behaves.
The Dunlop DBFS (which costs as much as TI here in Europe) so far are the zingiest and far away placed with respect to a warm flatwound vintage tone I've ever experienced.
I'm not saying they are bad; I'll give them time to break in of course before saying I wasted my money (because this may be an option in the end) and I'll see what happens.
Personally the low stiffness of TI is better for my, sometimes, flamboyant playing style but Dunlop are ok as well.
 
Not really trying to give advice at all, but having tried so many flats as you say. You know each one needs a break in period to settle down. And I don't know what you would consider a "vintage" tone. That term can mean different things to different players. Labellas can be quite bright out of the package, and many consider them the definition of "vintage" tone after they are broken in. The Dunlops do that quite nicely to my ears, though admittedly not as thumpy and dull on the high end after break in. Which I like for the music I'm playing at the moment, which is 60's and 70's R&B and Rock. Some of the brightness will go away with playing and time. But they are designed to brighten up when the tone knob is turned up for more modern styles. EB Cobalt Flats for example, are very bright and punchy, and can be deep sounding too. But they are designed for modern sounds with a flatwound feel. Like TI's, some like them, some don't, but that's going to be the case with every string set. Ed Friedland has spot on reviews on all these strings. All I'm saying is this: You bought the strings, let them break in before you decide if you like them or not. If afterwards you don't, simply change them. It's your bass not mine.
 
I have the Dunlops (45105) on a 2009 AmStd Pbass with PV63 pickup going through a Markbass LM3 and two 121NY cabs. I've also tried Fender 9050 (45100), DR Legend (45105) and Pyramid flats (45105). This Pbass I've set up for reggae-dub and EDM. I like all strings mentioned but, so far, the Dunlops have the most interesting tone that is also suitable for the aforementioned genres. It took me two months of regular playing (say, a couple of hours per day) to get where they are now. Where are they? They're definitely warmer than the Fenders with less growl but not dead or plain thumpy. Pretty much no growl at all. Their tone is more versatile, I'd say 3-dimensional, than both the DR and the Pyramid, and I think they have the most punch, I'd even say by far, than any of these other strings. They also have less tension and are more flexible than any of the other strings mentioned. Judging from how much I had to adjust the truss rod, I'd say they have just a bit more tension than the average 45105 nickel-plated round set. The other day I did a side by side comparison with the Pyramids (which I put on my other Pbass, a 2017 AmProf, to do the comparison). As much as I like the Pyramids, and I like them a lot, the Dunlops are more versatile and not just old school. Their tone is more complicated [edit: complex! :rolleyes:] and interesting, if I may so put it, and, as already said, they have more punch, which is good for dub. And, again, they are almost normal rounds tension and flexibility, which makes playing them a joy. Just keep playing them until they get there. They will! PS. I keep the tone knob ⅓ open and have a .82 cap on the Pbass. PS2. I can pretty much nail the Robbie Shakespeare tone, which he however gets with Jbass-type basses and DR Legend strings, if that says anything about the Pbass-Dunlops combination.
 
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Dunlop Flats = complex tone for sophisticated taste. How's that?

They're the flatwound strings for the connoisseur!

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If you really love T.I.'s...I think you should just stick with them because I have not played anything that comes close to them. Not to mention that they last forever so their cost is really a good deal in my opinion.
Yes you can buy Labella LTF which will have low tension or create your own low tension balanced set of other brands in say a 40-55-75-100 but their tone will not sound like T.I.'s and will sound good a fraction of the life span of T.I's.
Just my humble opinion and experience....
 
That's the thing about Dunlops...they're quite zingy out of the package, but they soon go dead and get as thuddy as any flats. If you'd like to rush the process, I recommend plain old Eucerin cream as the most effective way I've deadened strings quickly. Store brands OK. Does not work on TI, coated, or tapewound strings.
 
That's the thing about Dunlops...they're quite zingy out of the package, but they soon go dead and get as thuddy as any flats. If you'd like to rush the process, I recommend plain old Eucerin cream as the most effective way I've deadened strings quickly. Store brands OK. Does not work on TI, coated, or tapewound strings.

I wouldn't call mine dead though, at least not yet. My impression is they have stabilized to a do-it-all flatwound state of mind.
 
Good review. They are on my list to try. I like that TI are a little brighter than LaBella in some cases. But I have basses with each.
Subbed.
Follow up in a week. Will the settle in? I know a lot of flats are sproingy out of the wrapper and calm down in 10 or so hours.
 
That's the thing about Dunlops...they're quite zingy out of the package, but they soon go dead and get as thuddy as any flats. If you'd like to rush the process, I recommend plain old Eucerin cream as the most effective way I've deadened strings quickly. Store brands OK. Does not work on TI, coated, or tapewound strings.
Mine were like that as well, but settled down pretty quick, and sound great. I've heard of guys using mayo and other kinds of stuff to deaden flats, but I had no idea you could use Eucerin cream for that. Very interesting!
 
If you wanted something flexible like the Thomastiks why did you get the 45-105 set instead of the 40-100?
Because at the moment in Europe there's no 40-100 set available and, by the way, TI are 43-100; the difference however is tangible.
I like what another user said about Pyramid Gold 45/105.
I also like them a lot; very nice, thumpy old-school tone and they are actually stiff.
However, there's no much difference with the Dunlop in terms of stiffness; Pyramid sound way less metallic.
Dunlop strings are smooth (La Bella are smoother however) and, yes, they have some unique tonal features with respect to other flats I've tried.
Now they are way too bright for my taste (brightest flats I've tried out of the box); let's see what happens ...
 
If you really love T.I.'s...I think you should just stick with them because I have not played anything that comes close to them. Not to mention that they last forever so their cost is really a good deal in my opinion.
Yes you can buy Labella LTF which will have low tension or create your own low tension balanced set of other brands in say a 40-55-75-100 but their tone will not sound like T.I.'s and will sound good a fraction of the life span of T.I's.
Just my humble opinion and experience....
I agree with you; I wanted to try what Dunlop sounded like as I read a lot of very good reviews on them, but I honestly believe that, for the price, you can go with Fender flats or D'Addario Chromes.
They may feel dustier on the fingers but, in my opinion, they sound more as flatwound strings should sound.
 
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