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ears and intervals

Discussion in 'Jazz Technique [DB]' started by dodgy_ian, Aug 15, 2007.


  1. dodgy_ian

    dodgy_ian

    Apr 9, 2001
    Newcastle, UK
    hi guys,

    since i've started playing double bass I've realised that I've never really focused on my ear training and as a result they're pretty poor. I've been doing some fairly intensive work this summer and making some good progress - anyway, heres my Q

    I've been using songs to help me focus in on intervals, so for example Amazing Grace first two melody notes is a perfect 4th. I've manged to get a song/melody for all the ascending intervals, but I'm struggling to get a complete set for descending intervals. I've found it such a helpful tool for learning and internalising intervals thats I don't now need to really think about the related songs anymore...i'm still struggling on decsending though.

    So for descending I've got

    minor 2nd - ??
    major 2nd - 3 blind mice
    minor 3rd
    major 3rd - Swing Low Sweet Chariot
    perfect 4th - O Come All Ye Faithful (hymn)
    tritone -
    pefect 5th -
    minor 6th -
    major 6th -
    minor 7th -
    major 7th -
    Octave -

    Can anybody help me fill in the blanks?

    Thanks!

    Ian
     
  2. dodgy_ian

    dodgy_ian

    Apr 9, 2001
    Newcastle, UK
    perfect! thank you very much!

    still struggling on a few as I don't know the ones for the following intervals - anyone got any ideas?

    tritone

    major 6th

    major 7th
     
  3. DocBop

    DocBop

    Feb 22, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    For major 6th I use the first two notes of My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean.
    For major 7th the first and third notes of Somewhere Over the Rainbow.
     
  4. dodgy_ian

    dodgy_ian

    Apr 9, 2001
    Newcastle, UK
    Thanks DocBop - I actually meant descending rather than ascending - Ive got all the ascending ones to my satisfaction, its just these descending ones which are causing me some grief! :meh:
     
  5. DocBop

    DocBop

    Feb 22, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sorry, then for a major 6th down the old spiritual Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen. Major 7th down I have no tunes.
     
  6. For a major 7th down: I Love You (Cole Porter)

    Nobody knows the trouble I've seen is a good one for a major 6th down. Another one just occurred to me, though--if you're a Mel Brooks fan, how about Springtime for Hitler?
     
  7. Ascending tritone: 1st 2 notes in "Maria" from West Side story
    descending: Monk's Epistropy -- last two notes in 2nd phrase. There must be a less obscure one than that but that one you can't miss.

    Edit: I just checked that link. They stole my suggestion! YYZ is a pretty good one too I guess.
    Ha! I was going to suggest the Star Trek theme too. Still got that on the brain after seeing a young Teri Garr on it the other day.
     
  8. rockwarnick

    rockwarnick

    Jul 29, 2006
    Rockville, MD
    minor 2nd - JAWS!
     
  9. rockwarnick

    rockwarnick

    Jul 29, 2006
    Rockville, MD
    perfect 5th - twinkle twinkle little star
    minor 7th - somewhere over the rainbow

    i just took a class on this. i had a whole sheet of numerous songs for each. i would look it up but im at work.
     
  10. rockwarnick

    rockwarnick

    Jul 29, 2006
    Rockville, MD
    o and if i remember correctly a minor sixth would be the NBC tune. it may be a major sixth. im a little rusty.
     
  11. thought of that one too. NBC = MAJOR
     
  12. noelito

    noelito

    Jan 29, 2007
    the first two notes of over the rainbow are an ascending octave not a minor 7th. intervals are between two consecutive notes!!
    descending minor 7th--- watermelon man
    descending octave----willow weep for me
    descending major 6th--- crazy(patsy cline)
    descending minor 6th-----love story( where do i begin)
    descending perfect5th----it don't mean a thing( if it ain't got that swing)
    descending major 3rd -----summertime
    descending minor 3rd----- misty
    descending minor 2nd---- mood indigo
    okay?
     
  13. Marcus Johnson

    Marcus Johnson

    Nov 28, 2001
    Maui
    See how much easier this is than sitting down at a piano and playing intervals? What a concept...:bag:
     
  14. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Victoria, TX
    I think "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" should be an octave am I lost?
     
  15. correct. an earlier poster pointed that out. one post said the FIRST and THIRD notes make a major 7th, which is true, but we're really looking for consecutive notes. another poster said MINOR 7th. it's an octave.
     
  16. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Victoria, TX
    O.K. and yeah maj7 after the octave cool. Just makin' sure thanks :)
     
  17. jazzbasser535

    jazzbasser535

    Feb 25, 2006
    Descending minor 2nd - first two notes of Beethoven's "Fur Elise"
     
  18. dodgy_ian

    dodgy_ian

    Apr 9, 2001
    Newcastle, UK
    cheeky! you may have slightly missed the point! Its just a way of remembering/recognising intervals quicly and accurartely when theres no piano or other instrument avaliable....:)
     
  19. Marcus Johnson

    Marcus Johnson

    Nov 28, 2001
    Maui
    Sure, I get it. But when you have to think of a certain specific two-note segment of a specific song every time you want to hear an interval... I dunno, seems more efficient to just learn the sound in your head seated at a keyboard, or even at the "virtual bass fingerboard" most of us have built into our consciousness. Add one or two more voices, and all of a sudden you start developing chord knowledge.

    Hey, it wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of listening to the little voices in my head! :smug:

    I do understand your point, though. And anything that gets people singing tunes is good... I wish I'd done more of it in my studies. A couple of days ago, I started doing some interval training with a student, and my regular home keyboard was not working, so I borrowed my daughter's little mini-Casio board (el-cheapo, Kmart). It got the job done pretty well! I think my student must have thought I was a little bit nuts....quite possible....
     

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