EB-0 Model One Wiring

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by DRay521, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. DRay521

    DRay521 Supporting Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Tuscaloosa, AL
    Hey TB electronics gurus. I'm completing an Epiphone EB-0 project and need some advice. I've got the Dimarzio Model One and I'd like to wire it to a series/parallel push/pull volume knob, and while I'm at it, I'd like to get a good tone pot as well. I know nothing about electronics and would love some input. I'm looking for a nice fat, warm low end tone, but I'd also like to have some good strong output. The local music store technician was telling me about linear/analog pots, audio/tone pots etc etc and really confused me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll be happy to answer any questions if it will help. Thanks!
     
  2. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Knoxville
    I would start with just wiring up the Model One like the stock pickup, then swap out the tone pot (might as well do the volume, too). If you know nothing about electronics, trying to do a series/parallel mod...with those tiny little tabs on a push/pull pot...on top of all that is a lot to bite off. If something goes wrong, it can be a mess trying to figure things out.

    If you start with just the pickup and pot swaps, that's a great exercise with not a lot to go wrong. You'll also then have a good baseline to go further. You'll know how it sounds so that if you do get into the push/pull series/parallel mod you'll know exactly what you're getting when you finish.

    As for linear vs taper on the pots, there are a fair amount of threads here that go into it better than I can, but the basic difference is in how the resistance changes throughout the sweep of the knob. Technically, one kind is more suited for volume and one more suited for tone; but in reality, both kinds will work for both volume and tone. Just get some Gibson style 500k pots, whatever is in stock, and don't worry about linear vs taper, would be my advice.

    I've done a small bit of modding to my own EB-0, swapped pots and added a jazz pickup near the bridge with a 3-way selector. I also tried very unsuccessfully doing a series/parallel push/pull mod to a jazz bass, and while that is totally different in tone, I can tell you the wiring can get very hairy and frustrating for a hobbyist level electrician like myself, hence my advice to start simple. It's tough to be patient when I get excited about a project, but it pays off.
     
  3. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Knoxville
    By the way, as for tone, the Model One wired stock will likely fit your tone goal, anyway. AFIAIK, it was made as a replacement for the super woolly "mudbuckers" stock in the EB basses so that players could have more tonal range. It should have a lot more output than the stock pickup, too, as those have crazy resistance numbers.
     
  4. hdracer

    hdracer

    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    I have installed that pick up in a few Gibson's and EPI's.
    I wired them up 3 way thinking it would be nice to have.
    If I ever install one again I will just wire it up in series.
    I found that I never use the other settings.
    I find them very muffled and very low output in parallel or coil tap.
     
  5. DRay521

    DRay521 Supporting Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Tuscaloosa, AL
    Thanks guys. It's great to hear that the standard wiring would be best to fit my goals.

    Can anyone explain in layman's terms the difference a 250k and a 500k pot would give me? I read that the 250k is warmer but lower output. Also, do I need to be concerned with .022 capacitors and all that jazz?
     
  6. That's pretty much it. Lower output and less high end.

    0.022uF is a rather low value, which means a relatively high cutoff frequency. I'd use a 0.047uF cap, personally.