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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by 5bassman, Jun 19, 2005.
What's your opinion?
Bergantino is dramatically nicer, but Eden is louder & cheaper (and still fairly nice)
Apples & oranges.
Two different tones.
Which do you like?
What are you looking for (tone-wise)?
+1. Both are great cabs, it just depends on the type of tone you prefer.
I'm a fingerpicker, no slap. I like a good solid, tight lowend. I'm not crazy about the hiss from the tweeter on the Eden. I was told this is the brand horn they use and the bergi uses a different horn.
I like eden better
I'm not too crazy about tweeters in general, especially since 95% of the time I too am a fingerstyle player.
The tweeter on my D210XLT is only on about 1/4 of the way. I really don't need it but I heard that it's better for the crossover to be on a little rather than not at all.
All that being said, I love the tone of the Eden cab. But I have not played through the Berg. I have heard it and it does sound great, though.
But I will stick to my Eden for now. Until I run across something really knocks my socks off.
For your style, I'd say Eden, but the Bergie would work just fine too. The Eden may be a bit louder.
IME, Bergs are musical cabs that really sing. They give ya that ooy, gooy sound without a lot of coloration (like Edens). Perfect for fingerstyle, as well as slap and everything else. My HT/EX stack is sticking around. No more cab shopping, now it's all about swapping out the head every few months...
Thanks for the help. It looks like I may be trading a D210XLT for a Beri HT210. I've read some good stuuf about the Bergi over the Eden but I like all the info I can get.
They really are two very different sounding cabs. The Eden 210XST might be a closer comparison. The 210XLT should be thicker in the low mids, and possibly louder, while the Berg will have a more clear, articulate, balanced tone. Jim's tweeters and crossovers are among the best out there, IMHO.
Definitly what Tom said, the Berg horn and crossover are a big part of the beauty in the Bergantino vibe.
I've owned the 210XLT and the HT210. Recently I A/B/C'd the HT and XLT and the newer Eden 210XST. The XLT had the characteristic aggressive Eden low mid bite that some love and some hate. The Berg was surprisingly scooped in the mids...which is the reason I got rid of it...it didn't cut well enough for me fingerstyle. My favorite was the XST. I recently got the chance to play a festival where the backline was a WT800 and two 210XST's. Awesome rig with the characteristic Eden ability to cut, but with more smoothness and body than the XLT's. Before you trade the Eden XLT for the Berg, try the XST...I think it sits right in the middle tonewise...has the bass of the Berg and the mids of the XLT while being better balanced across the tone spectrum. I too run Eden horns at about 1/4 or 9:00 to dial out some of the clank. Yes, Berg horns are better but I don't slap so it is not an issue for me.
The Eden 210XST is a great suggestion. I found it to be a little power hungry (as are many cabs), but all in all a great sounding box.