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Eden E300T: Any Photos of the Inside Yet?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by iualum, Mar 21, 2009.


  1. iualum

    iualum

    Apr 9, 2004
    60453
    That's my question. Been a long time & still no photos. Is it any different at all than the Ashton or Fame? Photos of the inside of both the Ashdown & Fame look pretty darned sloppy.
     
  2. iualum

    iualum

    Apr 9, 2004
    60453
    ...bump...

    ...any different at all?...even in the slightest (apart from the speakon connection, badging, and coming with whatever the Eden warrantee is)?

    ...looks like a good deal if there is difference, but not such a good deal if there isn't...

    ...has no one taken a "guts" photo yet?...really?...
     
  3. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    Been two days since I picked up my E300T. Thought it was time to open it up and see what it really has for preamp tubes. And since there seems to be an interest in the interior config, thought I'd post some pics. They aren't great, but maybe they at least show a fair display of what makes this thing tick. Here's the first two. More on the way.

    UPDATE 3/27/09: Had to delete the original pics to make room to upload the E300 schematics. For anyone who wants the pictures of the interior, check out my Picasa link:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/buftfan/E300T?feat=directlink

    Sorry for the haphazard postings. Still getting used to the TB format.

    -Chris
     
  4. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    Another. I think I've hit my TB limit. I can email a few more if anyone really wants to see them. I'm new to TB so there may be another way of uploading more and larger pics. I'm all ears for anyone who knows the system well.

    OK. I uploaded them to Picasa. Try this link:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/buftfan/E300T?feat=directlink
     

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  5. duff2

    duff2 Guest

    Dec 16, 2007
    This is awesome Buftfan. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to do this.

    If you want to upload more pictures, you could get yourself a photobucket account (free at photobucket.com), upload the pics there and then paste the <IMG code> into this thread.

    Cheers,
    Duff2
     
  6. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    No problem. Did the Picasa link work?
     
  7. duff2

    duff2 Guest

    Dec 16, 2007
    Just checked out picasa...

    Nice pics! Thanks again!

    Cheers,
    Duff2

    Edit: Preamp board for Eden appears to be substantially different (as claimed by Eden). Fame and Ashton are identical.

    fameashtoneden.
     
  8. Dare I say... They don't really look substantially different at all.
     
  9. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    Definitely different around the bass and mid eq controls (center). But there are a lot of similarities for sure. It doesn't really matter to me as much as others, but I'd be curious to know how Dave got started on this preamp board. I doubt it was from scratch.
     
  10. Hi.

    Thanks for the pics.

    The pres are different for sure, but the basic PCB is nearly the same.

    How much the pre differs then?

    Buftfan, do You know how to trace schematics? On this thread http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=487568 (or PMing me), You'll get the Fame pre schematics that You can use as a base. I think that would benefit us all.

    Regards
    Sam
     
  11. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    Sam,

    I sent you a PM w/r to this. I'll look for your response and we can go from there.

    r/Chris

    Follow up: I actually emailed Eden for the schematics for the E300 just because I like to have them on hand just in case. They sent me the WT500 schematics the same day I requested them (this has been a while back). But this hasn't happened yet for the E300. Not holding out much hope for those any time soon but we'll see.
     
  12. Hi, Chris.

    Sent You an e-mail, I hope the chematics are helpful :).

    I sure hope that Eden will provide them too, as mine are not, well..., all that professional ;).

    Regards
    Sam
     
  13. Martizmo

    Martizmo

    Mar 26, 2009
    Metro Detroit
    What kind of preamp tubes and Transformer? Anyone? How many preamp Tubes?

    How does it sound? Im on a budget but want crushing tube tones
     
  14. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    I asked that same question to Eden. My E300T (ser# 0803N0445) currently has (2) 12AT7 and (1)7025 tubes in the preamp section and (1) 12AU7A for what I believe is a phase inverter. After talking to Tim McCarthy at US Music, I think all the preamp tubes (including the inverter tube) are supposed to be 12AX7 tubes. I had asked about the problems with 1st generation production units and told him the tube config I had, and he immediately gave me an order number and sent out (4) 12AX7 tubes as replacements. According to him ( I am para-phrasing) the earlier units with the varied preamp/inverter tubes made some "crackling" noises and the change to all (4) 12AX7 tubes must have been the remedy. I assume that all the current models now come that way but I can't substantiate that.
     
  15. Rick Auricchio

    Rick Auricchio Registered Bass Offender

    Only you can decide if the sound works for you.
     
  16. duff2

    duff2 Guest

    Dec 16, 2007
    You can get some idea of how this amp sounds by visiting:

    www.bassplayer.tv

    Click on 'Eden amps' and then on the E300T link for a demo.

    Cheers,
    Duff2
     
  17. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    I noticed this morning that several Ebay storefronts are now selling this thing for as low as 809. Wonder where this new Eden epiphany is coming from. Two weeks ago we were still seeing this thing at 1100-1200 duckies.
     
  18. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio
    My guess was they didn't sell and are being discontinued. I got mine at 825 last week which was the lowest price on da bay then.
     
  19. shoot-r

    shoot-r

    May 26, 2007
    Illinois
    I'm just guessing here....the Eden 300T has recently had a cosmetic face lift....maybe their selling the older ones at discount to make room for the new.
     
  20. buftfan

    buftfan Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2009
    Newport News, VA
    Owner, Kohlman Bassworks
    For anyone that purchased one recently, does your unit have the effects loop send/receive jacks on the rear panel with tuner out and f/s jacks? I have seen some pix of models without the effects loop. Just curious of the development of this amp.
     

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