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Eden WT400

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mobax, Dec 2, 2005.


  1. mobax

    mobax Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    New Baltimore, MI
    Just picked up an Eden WT400 and am testing it through a Bergantino mini stack. Wow. I am liking this Eden.
     
  2. jbassbob

    jbassbob

    Mar 21, 2005
    Boise ID

    So what's your initial impression? I have been using a GK 400rbIII and am waiting delivery of a WT400 I won on eBay. I'm hoping for a little more beef and smoother highs. What were you using prior to the WT400?
     
  3. jbassbob

    jbassbob

    Mar 21, 2005
    Boise ID
    Oh I forgot, that's through two bagend cabs, a 12 and 15. Both s-d's, no tweet, and of course a Jbass.
     
  4. mobax

    mobax Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    New Baltimore, MI
    I have been using an SVT-4 PRO or sometimes a GK 1001RB.
    I also have a GK 400RB. I really like the SVT, but I wanted something more portable. I also really like the RB400, but it just doesn't have quite enough power. The 1001RB was sold to finance the Eden. The 1001RB is a nice amp; very clean and loud. It just didn't get that warm sound that the tube preamp delivers, at least to my ears.

    So far, I find the Eden to be very warm and very loud. I will be using it at a gig next week with the Berg mini stack and that will tell the story. I should add that I think the RB400 can deliver a nice warm sound and I would still be using it if there was more power. I am thinking that the Eden will be a very capable replacement for the SVT.
     
  5. jbassbob

    jbassbob

    Mar 21, 2005
    Boise ID
    Well, I got the wt400 that I was gassing for. Maybe I've been playing the 400rbIII too long but, I don't seem to getting the sound I was hoping for. I had thought the 400rbIII could use a little more warmth and initially I thought the Eden kicked some serious booty (it's clean and loud) but, after a few hours I started A-B-ing the two. After a few more hours, I feel my self gravitating to the GK, it's growly with a smooth transition from low to high. My studio is a bit boomy, mostly hard surfaces, I wonder if that's it. The GK has been dialed in to that space for a long time. I left the Eden flat and played at the same volume as the GK, I made subtle moves witht the eq and enhance but, to my ears, the sound is either boomy or a little too hard edged. In comparison you would expect it to be the other way around.

    How did it go with you mobax?
     
  6. Mcrelly

    Mcrelly

    Jun 16, 2003
    Minnesota, USA
    I recently had the pleasure of using a friends WT300 and I loved the sound: fat and rich, but don't forget, jbassbob, to try and thin out the sound with the "low" and "bass" controls. Eden WT's can thin out pretty nicely. fat or thinner I like that!
     
  7. mobax

    mobax Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    New Baltimore, MI
    I used the WT400 with Bergantino mini stack at a small hall (200 people) last Saturday. The band was amazed at how fat the sound was. I ran the WT400 flat. My SR5 was middle position for highs, middle position for lows and full on mids. I generally run all SR5 eq in the middle but during sound check, I was told that the bass was a bit boomy. Increasing the mids on the Stringray cleaned everything up very nicely. I really like this rig.
     
  8. Where did you have the Enhance control? Just wondering because you said you needed to boost your mids. With the Enhance, flat is completely off, while 12:00 is a considerable mid-scoop.
     
  9. SteveC

    SteveC Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    North Dakota
    The Eden/Bergie combination is a good one.
     
  10. mobax

    mobax Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    New Baltimore, MI
    A very good point. Being new to the Eden world, I run the enhance at 12:00 which I consider to be flat. I did play around with the enhance control though and found that I liked the 12:00 position with the mids boosted on the Stingray. I do plan to experiment more with the enhance control. Thanks for a good observation.
     
  11. mobax

    mobax Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    New Baltimore, MI
    I agree. While setting up, I kept thinking about the 1970's when I was dragging an all tube SVT with a pair of 8-10 cabinets all over hell's half acre. The combined weight of the WT400 + Berg mini stack is less than the SVT head in an Anvil case.
     
  12. jbassbob

    jbassbob

    Mar 21, 2005
    Boise ID
    The Eden manual says that flat on the enhance is full counter clockwise and pulled out defeats the compression. I'll be doing plenty of experimenting as well... there's a lot there to play with :bassist:
     
  13. jbassbob

    jbassbob

    Mar 21, 2005
    Boise ID
    I'll keep working at it. I'm finding my space is making the sound edgier than I'd like. Thanks for the input.
     
  14. Elliott

    Elliott

    Mar 20, 2000
    I use the WT400 with a Schroeder 1212 and cannot find fault with either.

    Eden makes a padded over-the-shoulder bag that is a great accessory. I put all my cords and junk in the outer pocket, put it over my shoulder, put a gig bag on my back, and carry the Schroeder like a laundry basket and it's only one trip to from the trunk to the stage!
     
  15. mobax

    mobax Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    New Baltimore, MI
    Where did you get the bag? My wife called Musician's Friend to buy the Eden bag they have. She was told it was for a WT800 and would be too big for the WT400.
     
  16. burk48237

    burk48237 Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2004
    Oak Park, MI
    LDS had them in stock last week. MF was just showing off their "product knowledge", The WT800 is a 2 rackspace (full rack) unit, and I don't believe Eden makes a bag for it.
     
  17. mobax

    mobax Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    New Baltimore, MI
    Thanks, burk. I'll give LDS a call.