ok so I have read lots of the reviews on Ovni labs and I know he says if it's pedal shaped it doesn't belong in the effects loop. I get that, and I respect it. Most folks here probably feel pedals belong between the instrument and the amp, which I also agree with. I want to discuss possibly bending these rules some because of simplicity and inexpensive-ness. My gig amp is an SVT3-Pro. I have in the effects loop a 3132 Alesis comp (Ovni recommended) into a 31 band EQ. I can EQ for the room, keep the 10 band in the amp scooped if I need it I can hit it with a pedal, and the knobs on the amp are more or less set to the same thing all the time. I want suggestions of a pedal or effect that I can put in that effects loop to give me more SVT sound in this SVT3-Pro. Something like one of the Joyo amp modeling Tech 21 clones, if only they made a VT Bass clone right? Anyways what I'm really missing is the power tube distortion that no pedal going into it has really given me. VMT maybe? I love my b7k but that only goes so far into it, and I like having it set to a different sound than the closest 'svt breakup' sound I can get out of it. I thought perhaps putting something that can do the range of od-into-distortion in there is going to be the best approximation without an actual SVT. I have a V4 so my frame of reference isn't a true SVT anyway but I also would rather carry the SVT3 than either a V4 or SVT all the time.