That's precisely why I put this in the misc section. I notice that happens quickly and easily in that forum. Some people take their effects quite seriously. Don't know why that made me LOL, but it did... My alerts this morning had more "quoted" alerts than I've gotten before, and they were all on this thread. Thanks everyone for the responses. I'll keep reading, but may lay low on my own responses. I'm going to definitely stick with the zoom for a while... if effects prove to be an absolute necessity, I may take some of the individual box suggestions here. Tough for me to do that though because I have so many reason I don't WANT to do that. They cost money, I'll probably only use each effect for 1 or 2 songs, I hate carrying extra gear around, plugging things in, etc, etc. I'm not an effects guy, trying to become an effects guys... this may take some time. Or it may be a complete fail. Time will tell.