Effects noob alert

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by thepocket83, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. I’m kinda new to the world of effects so just looking for a quick bit of advice re effects. I am looking to get hold of an EHX Micro Synth Bass to go alongside my EHX Blogger. I'm guessing that I would have to put my Blogger before the Synth? And would I be better using them between my Bass and Amp...or on an effects loop? I also have a Korg Pitchblack tuner if that is relevant.

    I also have an active bass if that impacts on what I should/shouldn't do.
  2. Fishyfan


    Jul 8, 2009
    BLogger post Synth. Try it pre-synth, but chances are youll hate it. the octaves wont track well with fuzz going into them.
  3. From the research i've done, the most frequently occuring info on this is that the wah/filter/auto wah etc family should be the first things in your pedal chain as they rely heavily on the input signal from your guitar.

    The bass micro synth is essentially and octave pedal with a filter sweep section so this should be the first pedal in the chain.

    Here's a rough idea of 'standard' chain order:

    Bass - filter/wah - compression -distortion/overdrive/fuzz - EQ - modulation -delay - preamp/D.I. - amp/desk

    This order allows you preserve the quality of the sound signal as it moves through the chain, giving the individual effects the best chance of representing themselves. Deviating from this is by no means wrong, given that through experimentation we find originality (if were lucky).

    I'd say start with this order, then start experimenting.


    p.s. check out the MXR Bass Blow Torch if you haven't already purchased the Blogger, IMO its the best overdrive I've heard or owned.
  4. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    Pedals generally do best between bass and amp, not in the fx loop. Generally (not always), the loop is meant for rackmount processors.
  5. Cheers for the advice guys!!
  6. Jared Lash

    Jared Lash Born under punches

    Aug 21, 2006
    Denver, CO
    You can certainly try the Blogger before the BMS. The worst that will happen is that you won't dig the sound.

    But I'd also say this, the BMS has a "square wave" slider which is more or less a fuzz anyway so I'm not sure that you'd want or need to run another dirt pedal in conjunction with it for most applications. So if the two are never on together, the order you put them in may be a moot point anyway.

    Of course, there are extreme scenarios where people are more or less using the BMS ONLY for the start and stop sliders and getting their octaver and fuzz from other pedals. The key is just to play around and find what you like.

    But a big +1 to bongo's post. Run your pedals at instrument level, not at line level.
  7. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Try both ways, see what you think. Sometimes, the strangest things occur when the order is reversed. Sometimes, it's good.