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Electro-Voice Force 15" speaker???

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by rolloman, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. rolloman


    Mar 11, 2014
    Friend gave me cab with a Electro-Voice Force 15 speaker in it. Is this a decent bass speaker, and what is the average used value of it be? Would really appreciate any responses. Thank you.
  2. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Grand Rapids Michigan
    This driver?

    Might sound fine at low volumes, but isnt going to have much gas in the tank for bass use.
  3. rolloman


    Mar 11, 2014
    Yes that's the one. I don't play bass. Looks like it is ok for guitar too.
  4. MIMike


    Jan 1, 2013
    West MI
    I had one of those in a extension cab for my old GK MB200. It was 8ohm and rated at 150 watts. It will sound fine as an extension cab or for lower volume/lower power situation.
  5. rolloman


    Mar 11, 2014
    Thanks to ya's. I'll give it a try.
  6. INTP


    Nov 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    I've had one of those in a smaller sealed cabinet for about 25 years. It has a modest but adequate low end while still having a decent upper range. I use it as portable speaker to go with my GK MB-150S (head only). It also sounds great as a keyboard amp. As noted already, it only handles 150 watts, but it's very efficient so it does get decently loud.

    I don't know what it would be worth--probably not much. I have no interest in selling mine, however. I really like the tone.
  7. deeptubes


    Feb 21, 2011
    When I was a teenager 25 years ago, I had one in a ported cab that was being fed from a 150w Gorilla combo. Served its purpose and sounded much better than the Gorilla speaker. No idea what it would sound like compared to what I've got now.
  8. rolloman


    Mar 11, 2014
    I'm using Celestion G12M Greenback with a Blackstar HT-1R 1watt tube amp. I really just had that Force 15 laying around and forgot about it. I'll probably just hook it up to see that it works and the sound then sell it. Not much out there that is gonna sound much better for a bedroom blaster than what I'm using.
  9. Gizmot

    Gizmot Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2009
    Nashville area
    I was the product manager for Electro Voice when that product was made (it was discontinued in 1997). Force was a general purpose speaker and it wasn't optimized for bass guitar although it can do a decent job in the right enclosure tuned properly.
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  10. rolloman


    Mar 11, 2014
    The one I have is in a Peavey Amplifier Cabinet, so they must have been pretty nice speakers for Peavey to use them.
  11. alecduncan


    Aug 12, 2011
    I have a pair of EV Force 12" in my odd old Peavey cabinet, and I actually really love the sound of it! Extremely efficient and clear, and coupled with my Marshall DBS head with ridiculous headroom it's definitely good match! I had a ton of trouble finding any trace of info on the EV Force series beyond that some guitarists used them - I haven't seen much info on their use for bass or PA

  12. Bassmec


    May 9, 2008
    Ipswich UK
    Proprietor Springvale Studios
    I like the force 12 lots too, while it won't take loads of power, it reminds me a heck of a lot of the highly sought after discontinued EVM12S short basket driver fitted in the early Mesa MKII combo.
    It appears to use the same short chassis but with a much lighter magnet and cone/voice coil assembly than the S.
    X Max on the force is the same as the EVM12L and EVM12S variant at 3.3mm
    so displacement limited power is not to shoddy at all.:bassist:
    PS Power handling aside its tonally one of the better sounding guitar/bass speakers out there still.
    Like the Altec 417 and ubiquitous JBL D120f it's going to well deserve trying a decent ribbon mic on it in any decent studio.
  13. alecduncan


    Aug 12, 2011
    150W RMS is what I've found in this old manual:


    With it's honest efficiency it's pretty decent for my purposes and like mentioned it's been great for recording. I'm currently doing about a 75/25 split between mic and DI.
  14. PawleeP


    Oct 8, 2012
    are these force 15 speakers ok with smaller boxes than the 3.2 cf of the tl606? thanx p
  15. quickervicar

    quickervicar Supporting Member

    Jul 21, 2006
    Lancaster, PA
    I had 2 of them loaded in a homemade cab. Good sound, but didn't handle the Hartke 3500 head powering them. It should do just fine in your application though.
  16. Gizmot

    Gizmot Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2009
    Nashville area
    Will they work? Yes.

    Will they have the same LF outout in a smaller enclosure? No, they won't. As noted before, the Force drivers aren't optimized for bass to begin with and with less enclosure volumne to work with, it won't provide as much low end thump. If possible, do it 'by the book' to ensure max low end.
  17. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    For a cabinet high passed at 100Hz and powered around 150 watts per driver, the Force driver has a nice open midrange character that is less colored than the EVM but still quite pleasing. It would also be a good choice for a tube amp with about 50-75 watts per driver. I haven't modeled it in a sealed box, but it MIGHT make a really nice sounding and fairly compact cabinet for say a 50 watt tube bass amp. It's fairly efficient too, another bonus.
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  18. PawleeP


    Oct 8, 2012
    cool.. i have 2 from a (vented) 200s clone (face mounted (dean markley one off) have not seen iota on this cab.. works ok for guitar with a modeling type head, and so far ok for bass at moderate levels and std 440 tuning.

    don't think they would fare to well with a real svt head and drop tunings though (mere speculation) was lookin to put one in a smallish 200w combo though.
  19. PawleeP


    Oct 8, 2012
    not sure what recommended cab size i for bass guit cab (sealed or otherwise).. have looked everwhere
  20. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Toronto Ontario Canada
    As for value, we can only suggest a value to supporting members. Them’s the rules. :)
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