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Electronic Tuners: Korg GT12 vs Boss TU12 vs Boss TU12H

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by lo-end, Nov 25, 2001.


  1. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    I am shopping for a new tuner and I have decided on 3 that seem to be in the same price range, the Boss TU12 and TU12H and the Korg GT12. I have a couple of questions about them:

    1. What are the differences between the Boss TU12 and the TU12H? Which one is better for notes like low B?

    2. Which of the three tuners is the most accurate?

    3. Which works the best for notes like low B?
     
  2. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    I'd cough up an extra $20 and get a Boss TU-2 stomp box. The convenience is worth it. It mutes while you tune, then just kick it on. Two of our guitarists have 'em and love 'em.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    Hmm... well I guess Ill just check all the specs at the Korg and Boss web pages and see which one I like better. Im leaning towards the TU-12 because I think thats the one my brother's guitar teacher had and it was nice. I really like the needle instead of the LED because I find it to be more accurate and easier to tune. Thats why I have it narrowed down to these 3; they all have needles.
     
  4. MJB

    MJB

    Mar 17, 2000
    I have a TU-12 and its a great tuner but it won't go down to low B. I tune the first fret to low C, not that big a deal but I thought you'd like to know.
     
  5. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    I have a Korg tuner. I can't recall the model, but it is the cheapo $15 korg tuner. (GA-20 maybe?) I bought it to throw in my acoustic guitar case. It is not chromatic, but is it automatic as far as switching to the string you are tuning.

    It has the LED lights as well as LCD "needle" This is the cheapest tuner I have ever used, yet it is also the fastest, most acurate one. It goes down to a low B with no problem and even turns itself off if you leave it on.

    It is so acurate I even use it to set the intonatation on my basses.


    Cons:

    You can't run it "Line through"

    Pretty small read out so you couldn't really tune on the fly in a dark room.


    I mention this only to say that KORG tuners are very good.

    Chas
     
  6. Agreed Chasarms. That particular tuner rocks. I run it from my preamp-out section, just switch it on when I need it. I can see those LED's pretty good in the dark though.
     
  7. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    So then, Korg are more accurate? I have a cheapo korg tuner that goes nuts when I play the low E. The little LEDs go everywhere like they cant decide whether or not Im in tune. Sharp, flat, sharp, flat, then it does this big "whoa!' thing when the meter just goes way off the chart, then sorta comes back. Basically, its way confusing and I hate it. I have to tune my E with the 12th harmonic, and I heard that thats not accurate and its off by a couple of cents. Does anyone have the Korg GT12? Can you play an open E and tune it accurately? This is all I really care about. I hate tuners that screw up on a low E. :mad:
     
  8. Korg make good stuff. I'm just not experienced with pedal or rackmount tuners(a tuner is a tuner, for chrissakes).
     
  9. Muji's got the right idea - the TU-2 is an awesome tuner. I have both the TU-2 and the Korg DTR-2 rackmount tuner and the TU-2 is a much better tuner, IMHO (at half the price). It picks up the low B extremely well, and the pedal form factor is very convenient.

    lo-end:

    Have you tried using a strobe tuner? They're a little harder to get used to, but I find them to be much more accurate than needles. The TU-2 has a very nice strobe feature also.
     
  10. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    how does a strobe tuner work? Are you sure its more accurate than a needle?
     
  11. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    The ultimate is a Korg DTR-1. I have one in my rack, and it rules. RULES!
     
  12. Laker

    Laker

    Mar 23, 2000
    I've been using the TU12H tuner for more than 10 years and only have one complaint with it. It has a hard time picking up notes below the fifth fret on the "B" string of a five string unless the bass has active electrics with a lot of gain.

    The LED tuners are a real pain in the a** to use if you play an outdoor venue in the daytime. Those little illuminated dots literally disappear.
     
  13. really, just get boss' tu2 tuner. I have one, it picks up my low B perfect, has many different options as to how you tune (by #,chromatically, flats, double flats) and is extremely convienient. You don't even have to turn to your amp. It's a little expensive but it really pays off when you know you're off pitch and only have 2 seconds before the next song starts.
     
  14. I've got the Korg GA-20 (chromatic). It cost £15 brand new. I really can't fault this unit. It's fast and accurate. If there is a down side it's that it's not in-line so plugging in and out has to be done. 'Still, there's nothing that can't be solved with a simple break-out cable.:D

    John
     
  15. Gard

    Gard Commercial User

    Mar 31, 2000
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    General Manager, Roscoe Guitars
    Yet another vote for the TU-2!

    I got rid of my big expensive rack tuner (Sabine RT-1601) for this unit. It tracks all the strings perfectly and quickly, including the open B on my EUB. It doubles as a mute switch when it's turned on. It's very stable and easy to see - even on a brightly lit or daytime stage. We played at an Orlando Magic basketball game this past Saturday, before the game and at halftime. The pre-game set was under full house lights at center court, as bright as you can get, and I could read the LED's perfectly. It has the additional advantage over a rack tuner of being right at your feet so you don't have to turn your back to see it.

    lo-end, the units you mention are very good, but for the same price you can get something better and more functional in a live situation.
     
  16. Samie

    Samie

    Dec 13, 2000
    Madrid, Spain
    Is anybody still using that tunner that sticks to the bass and you can tune with the intrument unplugged..


    i cant remember the name
     
  17. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    I still have a couple of questions about those tuners.

    1. what is strobe, how does it work?

    2. which one is more accurate, the TU-2 stompbox or the TU-12 handheld? Im guessing the TU-2 because thats what everyone keeps saying.
     
  18. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    Intellitouch tuners. I have had two of them. They work great, especially with acoustic instruments, but both broke. The little swivle joint is made of very cheap plastic. One broke, I sent it back. Sent me another. It broke as well. Definately not strong enough to stand up regular use.

    Chas
     
  19. I've had the TU-12 for 10 years, and really like it. The analog needle, as you say, gives much better information than LEDs. The H I think goes an octave higher or so. Not a concern. As others say, it will not pick up the low B. I tune with the 12th fret harmonic, and check with some fretted notes down low. I guess we should be tuning up and down the neck anyway, not just the open string.
     
  20. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    well, I looked around the ol' web and found these specs for the TU-2 stompbox tuner. It goes down to A0 which is a step below low B, and it tunes to +/- 3 cents. I guess thats good... Anyone here have experience with the Korg GT-12? I saw an ad a while ago in bass player for it comparing it directly to the Boss TU-12 and TU-12H and it was supposed to be better... according to Korg :rolleyes:

    anyway, Im trying my best to keep this thread from becoming dead. I wanna get as much info as possible on these tuners. I am kinda leaning towards the needle style ones since I like needles better.

    Does anyone know if the Korg GT-12 is more accurate than the Boss TU-12?