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EMG-HZ's. Whats up with them?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by PollyBass, Dec 7, 2001.

  1. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    EMG-HZ's. Whats up with them? Are they like crap pickups that EMG makes for bass makers or somthing? Or are they pretty good? The ones ive heard sound good, but people say there not REAL "EMG"'s. are those just the ones they make for companys for stock Pickups?
  2. ESP-LTD


    Sep 9, 2001
    Depends on who you ask. EMG makes them OEM for ESP, Spector, and others. Regualr EMG's have a preamp built in and HZ's are passive.

    There is more info on the EMG site if you dig deep enough.
  3. hyperlitem

    hyperlitem Guest

    Jul 25, 2001
    Indianapolis, IN
    me and my byddy A/B'd about every bass in guitar center and the schecters with the EMG-hz sounded damn near the best out there. I know i was surprised as you. The only thing i thought beat em out was the stingrays and the G&L's. Dunno they are worth a look at least.
  4. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    Hz's are NOTHING compared to real DCs and CSs.
  5. This is gospel truth. My Dean Edge Custom 5 has a pretty much identical configuration to a G&L L5500 I once played, but for the G&L having DCs and a rosewood fingerboard; guess which one I'd take?
  6. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I think EMG-HZ's sound really good. No doubt in my mind that EMG's (what people call "Real EMG's") sound much better. Like you said, it comes stock in alot of basses like Dean, Spector Schector, etc. I've A/B Spector's & Deans that had the EMG-HZ'z w/EMG pre-amps (BTS) to alot of other basses that cost more than the Spector & the Dean & I think the EMG-HZ's sounded much better.

    Lets' say you buy a neck thru Spector NS-2000. You would have, IMO, a great playing & sounding bass. Later on (if you wanted to) you could swap out the HZ's & put EMG's w/an Aguilar pre amp, or any pre amp to your liking & have an even better sounding, great playing bass.
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  7. BigBohn


    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    I got an ESP LTD C-305, w/ EMG-Hz and some preamp. Hope to upgrade both soon, but the EMG-Hz's sound nice, no problems. My only problem is the wimpy 9V onboard. I hope to get EMG-DC pickups and a BQC/BTC? whatever, the one with a midrange and 18V. I would get an Aguilar but they don't have models with a midrange freq adjust.
  8. Nino, you must be reading my mind!! That's next on the shopping list.

    Happy Holidays.
  9. Flatwound

    Flatwound Supporting Member

    Sep 9, 2000
    San Diego
    I just played some Deans at the only San Diego Dean dealer I'm aware of, and I thought they sounded really good. The bridge pickup had a jazz-bassish growl, and the neck pickup had a good, meaty thump. These were the passive ones, i.e., no onboard preamp. I was surprised at how good they sounded. If I had a Dean, I'm not sure I'd want to change the pickups. They sounded fine to me.
  10. EEbass04


    Dec 28, 2001
    Lee's Summit:MO
    ESP-LTD Sorry dude but if I remember right the HZ's are an active pickup b/c Schecters Elite series(and others too I think) have HZ's and they are listed as having an active pickup. sorry bud;)
  11. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    Uh. no. they are passive. dude.
  12. EEbass04


    Dec 28, 2001
    Lee's Summit:MO
    Whoops my bad! I stand corrected! Its got a 2-band ACTIVE EQ silly me! My bad!:D
  13. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    No problem man. I think technicly its still an active BASS, because of the EQ, but no active pickups.
  14. EEbass04


    Dec 28, 2001
    Lee's Summit:MO
    Would you still need a 9V for that then ?
  15. uglybassplayer


    Aug 24, 2001
    New Jersey
    Yes. The active EQ (preamp) still needs a power source even though the pickups wouldn't.
  16. I have EMG-HZ's on my new Spector Rebop 5. While they sound good, they also pick up every kind of imaginable electro-magnetic interference! I'm talking from lamps with light dimmers, neon lights in bars, CD players, Guitar pedals, you name it, it picks it up and makes that horrible "buzzing" sound that the sound man wants to just shoot me!! My old Fernandes bass picked up none of those annoying noises.

  17. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    EMG Hzs and the earlier "Select by EMG" were designed by EMG for use in instruments built overseas. The biggest difference between Selects and HZs is that EMG actually makes the HZ here in the USA, the Selects were made overseas.

    Duncan does the same thing with the "Duncan Designed" pickups and Bartolini has the MK-1...M(ade in) K(orea)...pickups that are used in some Lakland Skylines.
  18. Metal Mitch

    Metal Mitch

    Jul 14, 2003
    I had a Schecter Scorpion for about a week. It had the EMG-HZs with the active tone circuit, just like the ESP. I thought they sounded horrible. No mids at all. They had good clarity in the top end, but the lows sounded like an EQ-boosted deep switch. No "fatness" or "wood" sound of the bass whatsoever.

    I've been looking for a 35" scale 4-string for BEAD tuning for a long time, and EMG-HZ is what keeps me away from the ESP and Schecter. First thing I would have to do before I could play those basses is rip out all the electronics and replace everything. Not worth it, even at their relatively low price.

    I find the Spector more attractive because of the reverse-P/J pickup configuration, but even with "real" EMGs I would probably still need to replace them with Duncans to get a sound I like. And for the price of a Spector, it should come with pickups worth keeping!

    my $.02
  19. RevGroove

    RevGroove Commercial User

    Jul 21, 2002
    Burlington ON Canada
    Manager, Account Services: Long & McQuade Ltd. (Burlington); MTD Kingston Basses International Emerging Artist; Bartolini Electronics Emerging Artist
    That's exactly what I did about a month ago; took my NS2000/5 and slapped two EMG 40DCs in there. BEEFY tone! I kept the EMG BT circuit though, I wasn't interested in drilling extra holes to accomadate another knob for the BQ system.) Sounds good...now I'm trying to figure out what to do with my NS2000Q5...I may leave it stock, but in comparson, it sounds horrible...and I fully agree, picks up any kind of noise you can name!
  20. mrbaloo


    May 9, 2002

    I've had this Dean Edge 4 for about three years and is compleately happy with its HZ's and the onboard active EQ. I have been tweeking the pickup hight to nearly reach the optimum sound.

    One day, I benchmarked some combo amps in a local music store. I then grabbed a similar Dean-bass like mine, and found that the sound was rather terrible. I noticed that the distance between the pickups and the strings were very large, so I concluded: this hight-parameter is very important to the sound. (Lately I have borrowed a pre-EB MusicMan Stingray for a while. The 'Ray have a poorely adjusted pickup and sounds rather thin too...)


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