Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by philvanv, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. philvanv

    philvanv Gerbil Turds, Kitsap County Turd Core

    Jul 2, 2012
    and at the bottom it says thank you, and now you can shag off
    I am wondering why so many people that prefer passive pickups do not care for EMG's. If given the oppertunity, I would choose an EMG set up for all styles of rock. So if a few would explain to why many passive pup users dislike EMH PHZ..
  2. levis76

    levis76 Seconds from getting ba...

    Apr 14, 2007
    Metro Detroit
    I've never had experience with the PHZ, but I have had 40HZs before and did not like them at all. For passive p'ups they sounded dull, not much high mid and they get a bit muddy. They do sound thick, I'll give them that, but not full. I replaced them with the active 40DC and never gave the HZs another thought.
  3. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Love their actives, especially love the BQC preamp. The EMG HZ's I've played and owned I thought were decent, solid sounding pickups, but there are other passive pickups I like better. The new Geezer Butler P they have coming out any day now, however, is magnificent in every way. I was able to get one in advance last week and it's blown away anything else I've tried for vintage style P pickups, so now I'm getting a Geezer PJ set for my other Precision. EMG's getting ready to beef up their passive line, and the Geezer P and PJ sets are first.

    But if you're happy with the HZ's, far be it from anyone to argue with your choice. Pickup choices are very personal, and we're not all looking for the same things.
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  4. I think the perception of them as EMGs discount brand makes people look down on them the way people do with other brands too.

    Personally, I think they're decent, but after recently replacing the HZs in my Spector with EMG 40ps, I couldn't be happier; they're better all around, but the difference on the low B is by far the most dramatic.
  5. Grissle


    May 17, 2009
    I have some SSD EMG's in a Spector I like better than the HZ's as well. I would describe them as having a P bass character but with a hi-mid sizzle. I believed they are based on the HZ's but are tighter with more low-mid grunt.
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  6. philvanv

    philvanv Gerbil Turds, Kitsap County Turd Core

    Jul 2, 2012
    and at the bottom it says thank you, and now you can shag off
    I currently am using Joe "GAMMA" Milstiens thunderous P pups. But, in the past I've always used EMG Passive. I was just curious why people disliked them on the board.
  7. i had a P with an EMG Hz. The tone is kinda neutral, flat eq, very clean signal. I liked it.
  8. philvanv

    philvanv Gerbil Turds, Kitsap County Turd Core

    Jul 2, 2012
    and at the bottom it says thank you, and now you can shag off
    I have liked them for so long that I am so curious what my Gamma would sound like with them, but the P sounds so dialed in Im making no changes.....
  9. In the same vein, can I get measurements for the phz? The emg site doesn't have the height measurement.
  10. petrus61

    petrus61 Supporting Member

    I never thought of the HZ's as their "discount" line...just their passive line. The "Selects" were their passive budget line and were probably some of the worst pickups ever made. I used to own an ESP with HZ humbuckers that sounded great. Also, their new Geezer pups are decent and were initially an extension of the HZ line in a P format. There's definitely much worse to be had out there, quality wise.
  11. iiipopes


    May 4, 2009
    I had a pair of 40Hz pickups stock in my Ibby SRA305 that sounded great. If all I had were conventional bar gigs, I would have kept them. I changed them because I do outdoor gigs, and because I like tapewound strings. For both reasons, I needed the isolated internal ground that EMG actives provides. But I still keep them. I'm going to put them in a backup bass, because everybody needs a conventional passive backup bass that is as similar as possible to the main active bass.
  12. Wanted to I install a wet of X PA in a Fender MIJ PB-70 but I couldn't because there's no space for the battery unless you create it.
    EMG should arare this on their brochure/description of the product of think...
    After that bought a set of P HZ Geezer Butler signature model and. Installed them successfully on the same bass although EMG should carve the bottom of the pickups to allow the passage and guidance of the wires in my opinion.
    Difficult to judge the tone now as I'm using a guitar amp since my gear is elsewhere at the moment.
    However It seems that there's a lot of added growl similar in effect to the sound of P basses which can be heard on old 60s rhytm'n'blues LPs whereas the tone control is not too aggressive as it may be expected when dealing with EMG products.
    All is not all of recommend this product to all people looking for an easy to install and not very expensive upgrade of their P bass pickups towards the achievement of a so-called vintage or quasi-vintage tone.
  13. Mechayoshi


    Dec 7, 2015
    Off topic but I read that as "gramma" and I was wondering what your grandmother had to do with anything. :p
  14. catboyzee


    Jul 20, 2007
    I describe the HZs as being sonically neutral and polished, definitely not a traditional/vintage P bass sound. They seem scooped in the midrange and sort of compressed; almost active sounding, but not quite. They sound good in passive to my ears, but would benefit from an on-board or outboard eq to shape the sound to the needs of the player.