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eminence beta-12A-II vs. Basslite S2012

#21
Well, here it is guys. V4 cab fit with 4 - Eminence Basslite S2012's, it's sounds absolutely amazing. If you have any questions about the cab or tone, feel free. Check it out:
 

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dubstylee said:
Come on fellas, give me some feed back! Whatta ya think of the setup?
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I love it. Did the same thing with a 4x12 cab earlier this year. S2012's first. Then I traded those out for Deltalite 2512's. For my ear, I like the Delatalite's a little better. But I would not say it was a dramatic change over the
s2012. Just slightly more power handling.

Nice job. Hope you're as happy with yours as I am with mine!
 
#25
The process went smoothly. I first had to patch two holes due to recess handles being added by another owner, I cut out pieces of plywood to match the holes, I used a nail gun to nail them into place, and then used wood filler to fill the gaps, it worked great! I then used mattress foam topper from Target to dampen the cab. I used staples and 3M spray adhesive to attach it. I then wired it in a series-parallel format to keep it at 8 ohms. I sounds a lot punchier than my SVT-410HLF, but the HLF still has more low end (duh!). It's awesome, it's rated thermally at 600 watts, but I don't use anything but a V4 right now.
 
#26
i put four 2512's in my V4 cab and i LOVE it!
(i also replaced their paper dust caps with JBL aluminum ones to give them just a teeny-tiny more high end).
IMO, it really rocks with this tele bass and V4B head. its VERY dynamic and can go from a whisper to a BOOM by just using your fingers.

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So time to refresh this thread. I've been using the Basslite S2012's in my V4 cab now since last summer. I must say, they definately are good sounding speakers, I'm not sure if a lot of people on the forum have used them or not, but they definately sound punchy in the V4 cab. Their sensitivity rating is 97db, which is fair but not great either. I run this cab with either a Peavey VB-2 or an Ampeg V4, while both sound great through the cab, and while I am loud enough, I have one question for my fellow tb folks:

If I were to use Eminence Deltalite 2512's instead, would I gain a lot of volume? The Deltalites are 2.2db's greater in sensitivity, would this make a large difference performance? My gas and curiosity seems to be getting the best of me lately, plus I like experimenting with gear too much.
 
#32
You'd probably gain a little bit of volume, but since you're using it for bass, a better (and possibly cheaper) solution would be to add a second cab. I also have a V4 cab, and if yours is like mine, I'm guessing you're looking for more bass rather than more mids and highs. A subwoofer to go with the 4x12 would be perfect. You could build one of the subs on BFM's site for about $150 or so. Just get an 8 ohm speaker for it and match it up with your 4x12. You'll get a LOT more low end and not spend much money.
 
#33
I'm not necessarily looking for more bass, I'm looking more volume in general. I have a 410HLF cab which goes lower than I need right now, so I'm really loving the sealed cab punch you know? I was just wondering if the deltalites would give me more volume.
 
#34
You'll gain about 0db until >1khz, at which point you don't care since the majority of your volume is below there anyway. Just my opinion but I think it'd be a waste of money.

About the only way you're going to get appreciably more volume out of a cab that size is to use guitar drivers (which may blow if you don't high pass them).
 
#35
dubstylee said:
So time to refresh this thread. I've been using the Basslite S2012's in my V4 cab now since last summer. I must say, they definately are good sounding speakers, I'm not sure if a lot of people on the forum have used them or not, but they definately sound punchy in the V4 cab. Their sensitivity rating is 97db, which is fair but not great either. I run this cab with either a Peavey VB-2 or an Ampeg V4, while both sound great through the cab, and while I am loud enough, I have one question for my fellow tb folks:

If I were to use Eminence Deltalite 2512's instead, would I gain a lot of volume? The Deltalites are 2.2db's greater in sensitivity, would this make a large difference performance? My gas and curiosity seems to be getting the best of me lately, plus I like experimenting with gear too much.
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As I noted earlier in this thread, I did the same thing with my 4x12 cab. S2012's first. Then I swapped those out for a set of Deltalite 2512's. Are they louder? No, not really. At least not with the 100-200 watt heads I use them with. But the 2512's do have increased power handling, so they may be able to achieve more volume if I wanted to throw a little more wattage at them. My experience is that different speakers are not going to give you much (if any) additional volume in a sealed 4x12. You may get a slightly different tone (I did) but no more volume overall. If you want more volume, add another cab. That's your only sure-fire bet.
 
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Sounds like I'm going to stick with the Basslites then because I really like the tone of them. Plus, I have four of them in their which rates the cab at 600W RMS. I only run a 100 watt head and 225 head into it. I appreciate everyone's input though, I love messing with my gear to find that perfect sound. These basslites are perfect for what I need I'm thinking.
 
#38
dubstylee said:
Well, here it is guys. V4 cab fit with 4 - Eminence Basslite S2012's, it's sounds absolutely amazing. If you have any questions about the cab or tone, feel free. Check it out:
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Nice..
what are the approximate inside dimensions of the 412?

Did you use 4 8ohm basslite 2012's wired in series parallel?
If you did that would effectively be 2 16 ohm loads,
not sure if anyone makes a 16ohm 15 to put in a box under the 412.

Got an old 412 peavey git cab that's sealed (has 4ohm scorps) from factory, not sure if round speakers would fit though, will have to check..
thanx p
 
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#39
billfitzmaurice said:
Not necessarily bad either, especially when a 4x arrangement seriously detracts from midrange output.
Perhaps not as good as a driver with lower EBP, but lower EBP drivers tend to have other issues. Personally I'd vent it, especially if you have a V4 amp, which needs a higher sensitivity speaker.
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nice thread,
anyone ever compare either of these eminence 12's with a delta 12 pro450?
p
 
#40
I Understand this is a older thread, I was in the same predicament, I wanted to up grade some smaller combo bass amps , Fender Rumble 100v3 and 75, I was sure to buy the Basslite, but with like 10 e mails on speakers with eminence tech ANTHONY LUCAS
Design Engineer/Technical Support he convinced me to go with the
Beta-12A-II / He explained the following:
They have about the same output. The Basslite S2012 is 99dB and the Beta-12A-2 is 98db. /
They are similar designs. The Basslite is more expensive because neodymium is very expensive, but makes a lightweight design. /
Beta-12A-2 (ceramic magnet) or Basslite S2012 (neodymium magnet).
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