Envelope filter with Tap tempo

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by That Coyote, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. That Coyote

    That Coyote

    Apr 7, 2017
    I’m looking to replace my Dunlop mini wah with an envelope filter with Tap Tempo. I find the wah too one dimensional and I’d really like more tone variety and options. At the same time I like what I can do rythmically with the wah so a Tap option for quick on the fly ability to have a rhythmic wah effect is key as well. Any and all suggestions welcome.
  2. The only envelope filter with tap tempo that I know is the SolidgoldFX Funkzilla (but there must be others out there). I haven't tried it, though, so I can't comment on it.
  3. dannybuoy


    Aug 3, 2005
    An envelope filter is called such because it responds to the 'envelope' or volume of the incoming signal. Just nitpicking, but if it's controlled by an LFO it's no longer an envelope filter!

    These are the ones I know of with tap tempo:

    EHX Blurst
    Boss AW-3
    Source Audio Manta
    Subdecay Proteus and Prometheus

    If you want to be able to flick between cycling auto-wah and envelope control on the fly, then I think the Manta is probably your only option out of the above.
  4. The Chunk Systems Octavius Squeezer (which has the Agent 00funk built in) also has tap tempo but good luck finding one!
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  5. Snaxster


    Nov 29, 2008
    Subdecay Prometheus DLX
  6. Nunovsky


    Sep 4, 2004
    Source Audio Bass Envelope Filter Pro
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  7. veryvery


    May 23, 2016
    Source Audio Manta has a tap tempo
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  8. Snaxster


    Nov 29, 2008
    Guyatone Ultron GST-U05
  9. Jebberz

    Jebberz Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2012
    Quebec city
    You can acheive this with a Line 6 M5 too
  10. crguti


    Feb 14, 2011
    I want a compressor with tap tempo too.
  11. Proton Lenny

    Proton Lenny Supporting Member

    Apr 24, 2006
    Baltimore, Maryland
    The Funkzilla has LFO control and envelope control. The LFO offers multiple waveforms and the speed can be controlled by tap tempo or by expression. Very cool pedal. Have a like-new one for sale if you're interested. :thumbsup:
  12. stambroker

    stambroker Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Another +1 for the Source Audio Manta or Bass Envelope Filter. The Funkzilla was cool but imo not as deep as the Source Audio pedals. The Line6 M5 filters are passable, but definitely not even close to the quality of the Source Audio or SolidgoldFX.

    Another option is to combine an EHX 12 Step Program with just about any filter that has an expression pedal. I use my Source Audio Reflex to program weird tempos to control my Moog filter.
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  13. CapnSev


    Aug 19, 2006
    Coeur d'Alene
    The Blurst comes to mind. It’s essentially a filter with an oscillator rather than depending on your dynamics.
  14. Envelope filter is controlled by dynamics; an autowah runs the filter on an LFO. There are units that do both, but it makes no sense to call it an "envelope filter" if the envelope follower is not being used.

    The SA Manta does both, but the setting between both is static. Some others "morph" from envelope follower to autowah as the volume decays. The WMD SuperFatMan did this, although I never really gelled with that filter. I found it very hard to dial in.
  15. FenderB

    FenderB Supporting Member

    Mar 28, 2016
    Findlay, Ohio
    Chunk Systems Octavius Squeezer | eBay
  16. OhulahanBass

    OhulahanBass Supporting Member

    Nov 6, 2008
    Baton Rouge
    Wow, $350 or best offer is pretty darn good for perhaps the sexiest sounding filter out there. Setting it up is bit hard to get use to, but after you come up with a few patches it starts to seem natural. I wish Chunk would update these pedals but I think the guy who ran the company has sadly moved on.
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  17. nshuman


    Sep 4, 2012
    SGFX Funkzilla. I played through on once and it was awesome.

    Also the Broughton A S U R E S K I E Z
  18. Bryan R. Tyler

    Bryan R. Tyler TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002 Staff Member Administrator Supporting Member

    May 3, 2002
    Reviewer: Bass Player Magazine
    A “bit hard” is an understatement- the UI on the Octavius was atrocious. I had one from the original batch- I initially could barely trigger the filter; they had to increase the sensitivity to accommodate players who didn’t ram the input with heavy plucking or a high output bass. The customer service from Chunk was great, but it was a complex product that really needed a good software editor at a time when that wasn’t really a thing.
  19. OhulahanBass

    OhulahanBass Supporting Member

    Nov 6, 2008
    Baton Rouge
    I don't think so, it is rather easy after you look at the flow diagram and spend and hour with it. That said I have 100s of hours over nearly a decade with it. Problem is he wasn't hugely intuitive when he named and ordered things in the menu, but it really is simple once to know it. I have tried at least one version of most envelope and auto wah filters; the OS is my favorite.