Ok, I've had some extra time on my hands so i tried what some of you sugested. i did an a/b test on the epifani 12, 210, 310, vs. accugroove bergantino results accugroove sounds nice until you turn it up then it loses focus and clarity Bergantino sounds smooth but when i began to play will others I got lost in the mix the epifani's were tight loud and full, In my opinion you cant beat them. I wanted to see why theres such a hype about the accu's and the bergs, So i went to the websits and looked for noted players, and theres was basically nothing in comparison to the epi's players. Lets face it if AJ is playing them they got to be the real deal. I cant wait till the new stuff comes out!!!