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Epifani ul410/ul410 or ul410/ul115

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by dominic54321, Jun 7, 2007.


  1. Epifani UL410/UL410 stack

    27 vote(s)
    47.4%
  2. Epifani UL410/UL115 stack

    22 vote(s)
    38.6%
  3. Neither

    8 vote(s)
    14.0%
  1. I'm looking to build a rig for outdoor events this summer. I currently have a ul502/ul410 setup, which is fantastic. For outside events, I'll be using the ul502 as a preamp, and using a Crest CA9 as a poweramp powering a stack. My dilema is, should I stack a ul410 with another ul410, or with a ul115? I'm looking to achieve more volume, AND actually FEEL my bass during large outside shows.
     
  2. Hi Dominic,
    I voted for neither. My suggestion would be two Schroeder 1212L's. They are light, small, and they kick some serious ass in the booty dept. I just used one 1212L at an outdoor event and it really sounded great, and I could feel the bottom.
    Good luck!!!
     
  3. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

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    OK, the first pic was taken just for show... I never fired up the 115/410 rig. But based on my opinion of the 115 soloed, the 115/410 will blow out birthday candles from 10 feet. (Perhaps a slight exaggeration... :D ) If you're totally serious about creating a mighty wind, that's probably the way to go.

    OTOH, are you really sure you want to move that much air? I used the 210/410 stack at a large gig and it was plenty loud and deep!
     
  4. Nikoubis

    Nikoubis

    May 3, 2007
    Athens, Greece
    I dig 15's. I would get one before i got a 4x10. Or maybe a 2x12. Gotta love 12's too.
     
  5. Psychicpet

    Psychicpet Guest

    Mar 13, 2004
    Friend and Endorsee of Larry
    ...ya, I still have a soft spot for 15's :smug:
     
  6. godspeed68

    godspeed68 i'm here for the sound

    Mar 24, 2004
    Chicago, IL
    Budget permitting, id go with the Berg IP stuff.
     
  7. Lewis7789

    Lewis7789

    Sep 17, 2004
    Akron, Ohio USA
    Sales; ClearSonic Mfg.
    I've got the Epifani UL310 with an EA iAMP350 and that's plenty loud for outdoor gigs with a 5 string. I wouldn't imagine you would need more than the 4x10".

    But I would love to stand in front of an Epifani 410 + 115 rig if I had the cash... :smug:
     
  8. Tony G

    Tony G

    Jan 20, 2006
    NY
    I vote for 2x ul410's. They are capable of fantastic lows, while still being tight, punchy, and incredibley clear. But, as another option, what about one UL410 and one UL212?
     
  9. Mr_Dave

    Mr_Dave

    Mar 11, 2005
    Melbourne, Australia
    Employee - Basscentre Melbourne
    2 410s side by side. btw, you're crazy
     
  10. el_Kabong

    el_Kabong

    Jul 11, 2005
    A ul410 is louder than a ul115 (rated 3db higher) and I expect, produces more low end punch. Seeing as those are the two main attributes you're after for outdoor gigs, get another ul410.
     
  11. +1...I'd think the 1 410 would be plenty based on my own use of my UL/502/UL410 rig..BUT if I HAD to pick the UL115 or another cab, it would be a UL212 (I did not like the UL112)...you should be able to melt your face off at 20 feet with that rig!

    Peace,

    T
     
  12. I never took the ul212 into consideration, it may be worth checking out. I had a ul112 stack, and it sounded great, but it couldn't cut it with my band by the second/third set...loud drummer and guitar. It kind of got lost in the mix. I think I'm leaning towards another ul410, side by side for more bass response. Outside, I think it would have more of a PA type of effect, whereas people in the back would still be able to hear/feel the bass.
     
  13. Big String

    Big String Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2000
    Northwest Indiana
    Currently I have a 410 and 310 UL Series I. I just a UL902C to use them with on big gigs. I have not tried it yet though.

    I opted for a 310 to have available for smaller stuff. Together in the practice room it's incredibly loud with the vol just cracked. Like on ONE!

    Other than that I would probably choose a UL212 to go along with the 410.
     
  14. el_Kabong

    el_Kabong

    Jul 11, 2005
    Along the lines of what Fuzzbass was saying, have you thought about a ul610? He's right about the ul410 + ul210 combo, I have the same rig with a ca9 and it goes seriously loud. With a ul610 you could bridge your crest into it and have a one cab solution. If you're feeling homicidal take the 410 and the 610. :eek:

    Alternatively if you have some small gigs/rehearsals where a 210 would be handy you could do the same as Fuzz & me and go for the 210/410 rig. I find them ideal, 210 for tiny stages, 410 for anything else indoors, both outdoors (though I haven't run that in anger yet). And fwiw a series 2 210 sounds great tonally with a series 1 410.
     
  15. Joelc73

    Joelc73

    Nov 13, 2000
    New York
    Two 410UL's is a monsterous rig. If you're talking about playing outside gigs where volume and cut is necessary, I'd probably go with two 410's. a 410/115 would work also but I'd probably be partial to the wall of 10's.

    A 410/212 is great too but the if you're looking for lows vs low mids the 115 is a better fit. The 212 goes low but the 115 sounds rounder/darker and gives the perception of lower lows.

    All good choices though.

    When the time is right, shoot me a PM. I'll make sure you get the TB price.

    JC
     
  16. Hey Dean,

    Now that you have the 902c, my suggestion would be to sell the 410Ul and get a second 310UL. Two 5.3 ohm 310UL's would, to me, be an amazing rig that would still be portable. It would obviously put out more sound than a single 410.

    Two 410UL's... I can't even imagine, since I've never been able to push my single 410UL to its limits on even the loudest gigs I do. A 410UL/115UL doesn't make a lot of sense to me with the 902. You would optimally want two cabs with similar SPL, and also similar impedance. Assuming you are using a 4 ohm 410UL, and given that the 902 does not have a balance control and that the 115UL is both lower SPL and 8ohms, that doesn't make much sense to me.

    If I needed more oomph than a single 41UL (again... can't imagine), I'd be all over two 310UL's.... and that seems almost the perfect match for the powerful 902c... you would be putting around 800 watts into each cab... which is just about perfect.

    K
     
  17. I used a UL310 stack, and, although it was a great rig, I would personally stick with a UL410 as a single cab solution, and add the UL310 for the larger shows. It gives you more versatility. Then again, I was using a CA9 with my setup, where I could control the volume of each cab. Does the UL902c allow you to control the volume of each separate amp? The UL310 will stack perfectly above the UL410 if you place it on it's side. I think I'm just partial the UL410, my fav UL cab so far. I've tried a few combinations of the UL cabs in "real world" gigging situations. Here's a pic when it started to get out of hand.... :bassist:

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  18. Joelc73

    Joelc73

    Nov 13, 2000
    New York
    No, the 902 doesn't have a balance control or individual volume controls for the power amps.
     
  19. Thanks Joel. I didn't think the ul902c was capable of separate volume control, I just wasn't 100%. Does anyone know if there was any reason this feature wasn't added to the ul902c. I feel it would be much more versatile if it had the capability. You could then mix and match cabs without the worry of one overpowering the other.
     
  20. Big String

    Big String Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2000
    Northwest Indiana
    Well.. I don't plan on using both the 310 and 410 that much.
    I will most likely use the 410 most all the time and the 310 for smaller stuff. In my practice room they sound very good together although Ken's tips are good ones and valid. I don't know if I really want another 310 just now. Also true the 902c is limited as stated and seems to keep a lot of people from getting one specifically becaues of lacking the features mentioned. I loved the CA9 but definately don't want to lug one anymore. Maybe my 310/410 match is not a perfect one but I'm pretty sure it will do the trick.

    So, dominic... you prefer one 410UL over two 310UL ????
    Can you elablorate on this. I realize one cab is easier than two, but how was the loudness/throw/tone/cut differ ? I'm assuming the 410UL will have more cut but the stacked 310's should be louder and all around bigger ???
     
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