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EQ or Preamp?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by yaksonator, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. yaksonator


    Apr 16, 2011
    Branson, MO
    I've been doing a lot of research lately on finding the right preamp eq pedal for my setup. If I buy a preamp pedal like the Tone hammer, instead of a pedal like the empress paraeq, am I getting something "better" because the word preamp is associated with it?? I know the tone hammer has the ags circuit and an xlr out but is that all thats different? Any help would be great.
  2. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    It depends on what you are looking for?if you want to be very surgical with your sound then the Para EQ is the way to go with the Tone Hammer you could take that to a gig by itself and use the DI and be set with the Empress you could not. I am a preamp freak and have way more than I need I would be glad to help you choose one.
  3. yaksonator


    Apr 16, 2011
    Branson, MO
    I like the way my pbass sounds now. Which preamp type pedals would be good for enhancing that pbass sound? I've looked into most but have no hands on with any...
  4. f.c.geil


    May 12, 2011
    I'd suggest the BDDI or ToneHammer. There are other options (for instance, I use a ParaEQ into a Countryman Type 85 as my DI), but most of them are more expensive.
  5. JVbass


    Feb 15, 2009
    Cleveland OH
    Definitely check out the Sadowsky preamp/DI pedal.
  6. newbold


    Sep 21, 2008
    I like my Eden WTDI and the bypass is great. Preamp with DI, great EQ, compressor, and 'enhance'...or a great sounding bypass.

    You may dig the Fulltone Fat Boost with a countryman 85.
  7. JonnyAngle

    JonnyAngle Dropping Acid Pedal Etching .com Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 24, 2008
    Maple Grove, MN
    A lot of preamp pedals try to emulate X amp. If you want an un colored sound, get the eq into a di box. If you want to sound like an ampeg, get the sans amp. If you want to sound like A traynor, get a rusty box. I believe the tone hammer is the preamp of the aguilar amps
  8. DeltaPhoenix

    DeltaPhoenix Supporting Member

    Apr 6, 2011
    I don't know what your gigs are like, does a DI matter to you? Do you really like the sound of your amp but need a bit more EQ to cut through?
    I used to be into preamps but now, I don't need/want them. I really just like the sound of my bass and amp (and effects of course) and have found EQs to be an awesome tool.
  9. Bassist30

    Bassist30 Supporting Member

    Mar 19, 2004
    I agree with XFactor. Sadowsky pre would help as the P had a treble roll off. The high was around a 4 K where the sadowsky pre boost the 4 k.
  10. Also consider band, PA, Mix, Sound Guy, and venue. I've tried a lot of them and sometimes the factors above mess with them.

    I'm not a fan of ParaDriver tone in bedroom but works great in a live mix thru a very clean system.

    BDDI made weak subs in a bad room sound amazing - tightened lows, scoops 800Hz which helps guitars be more audible.

    VT took too much low end (HPF 80Hz) out of my Tobias 5 string, but makes my Jazz bass with EMG's a monster.

    I often play clean into tube DI (Agi DB900) - slight compression of peaks, more detailed so character of each bass shines thru.

    I wasn't a fan of Tone Hammer - harder to hear bass in the mix, mids were boost/OD only iirc.

    I play with a Thunderfunk amp live - it has 4 band semi parametric, plus B&T shelf EQ.

    I'd recommend the Empress ParaEQ - BUT - you've gotta put in effort to learn how to drive it. It'll do what nearly every other pedal does and more (except OD).
  11. Preamp often means a colored, amp simulator. Handy for small size, simple setup: bass -> pre -> desk.

    EQ is clean & transparent. You can use it anytime anywhere.
  12. yaksonator


    Apr 16, 2011
    Branson, MO
    Do any of you guys have experience with the darkglass b7k? I figure Ill ask all the questions I can about these products.
  13. bongomania

    bongomania Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    There are threads about it. Search and read.
  14. yaksonator


    Apr 16, 2011
    Branson, MO
    Ok thanks.
  15. caeman

    caeman The Root Master

    Sep 17, 2008
    If you like the way it sounds now, why do you wish to "enhanced" it?
  16. yaksonator


    Apr 16, 2011
    Branson, MO
    I guess the same reason why I started getting into effects in the first place. Options! No its not needed, but having the ability to engage an effect, or in this case a preamp/eq to enhance my tone for certain things is always a plus.
  17. JVbass


    Feb 15, 2009
    Cleveland OH
    Check out some YouTube demos of the Sadowsky preamp/DI. I think this is exactly what you're looking for.