Hi All, I think what I'm looking for is an eq pedal. Looking for something that I can use to change my tone when switching from finger style songs and pick songs. About half of my band's songs I play with a pick and the other with fingers. If I eq my amp (or pre amp) for a great tone with a pick, when I play with my fingers it just sounds too warm with no articulation and vice versa, eq'd for fingers then with a pick it sounds too abrasive and bright. Is there a good eq pedal or something else to engage when I change styles that would solve this? For reference, my big rig is an SVT/Berg 610t. Small rig is a VTBDI/Quilter BB800/Audiokinesis Hathor 212. Usually some mild grind from DG VMT. Usually playing a Fender P. Thanks!
You've got some top flight gear there, so I'm guessing you'd want to go high end on an EQ pedal as well. My first thought would be the Empress Para EQ which affords a lot flexibility. They're not quite in the same league, but for a decent lower cost solution the Bass GEB or GE 7 can work well as can the MXR 10 band EQ or M81.
Thanks for the reply! After I posted my question I started doing more research on all the eq pedals. Maybe I should have done that first. I'm leaning towards the Empress. There doesn't seem to be any bad reviews and the flexibility is a plus. I like the idea of having stored presets on the Source Audio Programable EQ as well. I've read that the Boss and MXR eq's can add noise and/or tone suck. I'm going to listen to some Youtube reviews on the Empress and the SA.
I think with the kind of gear you've got, the Empress will be more to your liking - nothing against the Boss and MXR options, just different leagues. Since you already know your own amp EQ can get you the settings you like, the Empress should be able to deliver similar or maybe even better results. That EQ pedal has a lot of options for tone shaping and can take a little more time than a simpler EQ to dial in the profile you're looking for...flexibility does come with a price, but i think it's well worth it. Good luck in your search!
A man after my own heart. Empress! You'll also love its boost, which can be configured independent of the EQ if need be. If you needed extra flex, the programmable Source Audio was to be my second suggestion. SA has the bells & whistles, but I've never needed more than the Empress though. PS: Whirlwind gets some love from some TBers as well.
Well I just ordered an Empress. Found one on Reverb close by so I won't have too long for shipping. I've been using a PT Nano but looks like I'll have to move to my bigger board now.
Yup. From Empress: "The Boost section offers 30dB of clean boost and can be set to engage with the EQ section to act as a make-up gain when doing subtractive EQ, or can be used completely separately as a pure clean boost." Bold emphasis mine. PS: PT Mini HD Gig Board Apr 2015 by Feral Feline posted Apr 26, 2015 at 2:56 AM
I recently went through this same decision but in my case I wanted the EQ to feed the FOH. I chose the new Tech 21 Q\Strip over the Empress because the Q\Strip has a HPF and LPF which will give a pseudo speaker simulation. I would have liked to have the Q controls from the Empress but I didn't want to lose that speaker sim capability. In your case, since you're feeding an amp, the Empress is probably the better choice. Assuming you know how to use a parametric EQ. If not, ask, there are plenty here who can help.
The H/LPF is a great idea, n1as. Broughton makes an all-in-one, or you can have him separate the H from the L and each get their own boxes. I think that'd be the bees knees, Empress EQ and Broughton HPF/LPF peds.
I'm sure the parametric EQ will have a bit of a learning curve. I have had amps in the past with semi parametric EQ's that I've used with success so I'll figure it out. My goal with the Empress is to dial in a more aggressive finger style tone with my P bass. I'll have my amp dialed for a nice aggressive pick tone and then engage the Empress for those finger style songs. My thoughts now, even before I have the Empress, is that I'll need to cut some lows and boost mids and highs a bit. Right now the finger tone is just kind of a bloated, bassy, unarticulated sound. What frequencies to boost and cut and what Q's to use? Dunno, but I'll be doing some knob twiddling for sure.
You might find that you get better results by setting the amp for finger style and using the EQ to alter the sound for pick action.
My Empress arrived today and I've been messing around with it for a while. Like @n1as suggested I set up the VTDI for a nice finger style tone first. I dialed in a great pick tone with the Empress by cutting some of the inherent honky mids from my P bass. I boosted the bass and treble just a bit too. Sounds great! This pedal does exactly what I was looking for. This was just at home though so I'm sure I'll have to tweak it at rehearsal and our gig coming up soon. Here's a shot of my board with the new addition.
Wow, nice board. Nice gear. I'd love to know what you think of the VT Bass DI. I ended up with the Q\Strip instead since I use it for bass and guitar, but the VT Bass still calls to me.
I really like the VTDI so far. I haven't used it live yet but I will next week. I've been using it at our weekly rehearsals that we always record off our IEM/board. The recordings sound great. I've been using my smaller rig more and more live recently (Quilter BB800/AK Hathor 212) so I got a couple preamps/DI's to run through the Quilter. The Quilter is nice but the EQ is pretty limited so I wanted some more tone shaping ability plus a DI since we just invested in a nice IEM system. I've had a Two Notes Le Bass for a while and I picked up a new BDDI and the VTDI. I used the Two Notes on our last gig and it was just ok live. The clean channel has no mid control and the dirty channel didn't sound quite right to me. I spent some more time with the VT at home and rehearsals and really like what I'm getting out of it. My big rig is an SVT so I guess I like the Ampeggy flavor of the VT. I use it as a clean preamp into the rear of the Quilter and use pedals for my dirt. The BDDI is cool but colors your tone a lot. The VTDI is much more natural sounding and lets the tone of your instrument come through. I had to spend a lot of time with it though.