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esp b-405 or ibanez sr-905??

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Eisenmann, Oct 17, 2005.


  1. Eisenmann

    Eisenmann

    May 12, 2004
    hi folks,

    I'll buy a new bass soon but at the moment I'm kind of helpless what to get

    ok this is what I want:
    I play loud metal and rock music. I need a bass with a really fat sound.atm I'm playing a gsr200 and I'm totally dissatisfied with it. the sound is like real tiny and thin.no power no sustain no...(how do I say this??) no "boom" :D

    I want a bass with real nice low-end and a powerfull sound that can cut through the mix (we are playing with 2 guitars)
    because of that strong low mids are impotartend, too, dont they?
    oh additionally I'd love highs that won't be harsh and sharp that your ears start bleeding :D

    ok enough of the talk now. I found two basses that fit in my cash limit and seem to be quite usefull

    which would you prefer and why and do you know other aternatives that I could try??
    thanks for your help guys i read alot here at talkbass and I know you guys know alot :hyper:

    esp b-405
    http://www.espguitars.com/basses_b.htm

    ibanez
    http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/products/eb/page/SR905_CNF_a_e_u.html

    oh i forgot. atm I'm not really sure if a want a 4 or a 5 string bass...
     
  2. Tim Cole

    Tim Cole

    Jun 12, 2002
    Findlay, Ohio
    Honestly man, neither one of those would I touch, for even 20% of the price. There are MUCH better basses that can be had in that price range.

    For rock, nothing beats a stingray! If that doesn't trip your trigger, a US precision or jazz will do it. All 3 kill either one of those basses, and are all available in ex. used condition for well under what those are going for.
     
  3. Eisenmann

    Eisenmann

    May 12, 2004
    thanks for the fast answer :)

    I bet a stingray would be great but it is just not my cup of tea. i tried some of them and i could not become friends with it.

    I considered a Precision before, too, but on the one hand i think i wouldn't be flexible enough just with a prec.I don't consider it as a one-trick pony.I know that you can do really much with just you fingers but I'm not the guy who can stick with the same thing for a long time and maybe I could get tired of the prec.(no offense here, I love precisions but i bet you guys know the GAS ;) ). on the other hand i live in germany and the american fenders are much more expensive than in america and that would be just to much money for me. additionally I'm not really satisfied with the quality of the mexican ones.

    thanks for the answer!
    other opinions?
     
  4. bass-shy

    bass-shy

    Jan 11, 2005
    Florida
    I would go for the ESP B-404 or B-405. Every ESP that I have played has been top-notch in every aspect. However, there are a lot of people on TB who don't like them, so I guess they're not for everybody. I don't think you'll be disappointed with the ESP, though, I absolutely love my C-304. Good luck. :cool:
     
  5. infectus-alex

    infectus-alex

    Oct 17, 2005
    Well for a start, if you play proper metal etc... i wouldnt listen to anyone that says a precision or a jazz etc will cut it for that type of music! You always get someone that thinks nickleback are heavy saying "oh well my precision 4 is great for everything - you cant beat it".... well im afraid thats just not true... there is a tool for every job. I wouldnt play my metal bass on my jazz gigs!

    Anyway... I play an Ibanez EDB605 and it is (IMHO) the best bass i have played... i have a mate with a Zon Sonus 5, and its nice, but i wouldnt play metal with it. I would hole-heartedly recomend an Ibanez to anyone - BUY IT!
     
  6. Tim Cole

    Tim Cole

    Jun 12, 2002
    Findlay, Ohio
    lol
     
  7. Tim Cole

    Tim Cole

    Jun 12, 2002
    Findlay, Ohio
    1. Nickelback sucks
    2. Nickelback doesn't use P basses
    3. Metal bass lol
    4.If you can't do it with a P or a J bass, the bass isn't the problem. There's a reason they are, and always will be standards. We're talking TONE, not whether it is all black, or has the highly coveted 666 inlay.
    5. Nice way to call those trying to give suggestions morons on your second post here.

    Back on subject, perhaps give Spector a try!
     
  8. bass-shy

    bass-shy

    Jan 11, 2005
    Florida
    You know, some of us on TB aren't big fans of "Standard" basses. I have played and owned several Fenders, and none of them really did it for me. I can't stand that every time I open a Bass magazine and all I hear about are Fender basses played through Ampeg amps. Sure, this is a good combo for a lot of people, but not everyone........including me. The original poster asked about two basses, neither of which were "Classics" so you don't take him seriously? I think that speaks for itself. :eyebrow: Also, ESP and Ibanez make more than "Metal" basses. Thay happen to be the choice of many metal musicians, but that is as far as it goes. Besides, a bass doesn't dictate what type of music you can play with it. I have taken my ESP to Jazz, Funk, Folk and Blues shows and it wasn't out of place at all. Good luck with your search.
     
  9. Tim Cole

    Tim Cole

    Jun 12, 2002
    Findlay, Ohio
    No, I wasn't digging on the original poster at all, but rather the one that replied to me assuming I was a nickelback fan, and wasn't METAL enough to understand his plight...etc.

    If those basses work for him, then by all means jump on them! I was just offering advice on basses in his price range, that offer a MUCH better value for the buck spent.

    PS, I use a Modulus, and haven't owned any fenders for quite some time.......
     
  10. bass-shy

    bass-shy

    Jan 11, 2005
    Florida
    I understand where you're coming from, and I apologize for sounding angry. There are just a lot of people on here who preach that something is crap if it isn't "classic". Anyway, I'm done.
     
  11. dgce

    dgce

    Jun 17, 2001
    Massachusetts, USA
    I've tried the Ibanez SR 905 in amber and it looked and played like a dream. Simply fantastic and I used to HATE their SR series. The string spacing is a bit snug for my taste (their BTB line is more my bag) but its worth the adjustment. And if you don't slap, you'll appreciate the spacing for fast finger work. Excellent axe.

    r
     
  12. Thornton Davis

    Thornton Davis Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Toronto
    +1

    TD
     
  13. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL

    Well, both are good basses regardless of what anyone says...I have had a Modulus Q5, Fender Jazz, and a Stingray and my Ibanez SR400, the baby brother of the SR900, is as good as any of those. The thing is, all those basses sound different, not better or worse. Tone is subjective, a passive jazz bass, IMO, does not cut it in metal for the most part. I had a beautiful playing US Jazz 5 in metallic red. Great bass, didn't work for metal, same with the Lakland 55-01 and 55-94 I had. Also, Stingray's are not in the same price range of these basses...the Stingray is close to 2X the price of the ESP/LTD or the ibanez.
     
  14. Eisenmann

    Eisenmann

    May 12, 2004
    thanks for all those helpfull advices.

    seems to be that this will be a difficult one for me :D

    mmmmm a spector us neck-tru is one of my absolute dream-basses. but the price... :(
    even the euros are to expensive and spector isn't real popular here in germany so buying one used will be a problem I presume.What's with the professional series?? any good??

    Last night I thought about the new mexican prec deluxe with P/J-pickups and active preamp.Maybe that thing would be a nice compromise (with the possibility of upgrading the pickups and stuff).

    Is the traditional P-pickup that's used in all those precs a singlecoil or a humbucker?? always thought it was a singlecoil but it has two coils?? kind of confusing :confused: ...


    looking forward to more opinions :hyper:
     
  15. Eisenmann

    Eisenmann

    May 12, 2004
    played some stuff last night.

    tried the dean edge basses. those are pretty cool.played some sr-basses, too. I think I really dig the sr-400 but its only a 4-stringer :(

    the sr-1005 is great, too, but it's not worth the extra cash comparing it to other sr models.

    played a thumb :eek: simply sweeeet... but ugly :D (and expensive)
    played a fender sting-bass
    well... didn't like how it sounds...

    no standard precs tough :(

    have to search and play more other stuff :)
     
  16. dgce

    dgce

    Jun 17, 2001
    Massachusetts, USA
    If a traditional P bass with a few modern twists is yr bag, then the P Deluxe is a good choice. However pound for pound I say that Ibanez SR 905 smokes it. Also, i thought you were in the market for a 5 string?

    r
     
  17. Eisenmann

    Eisenmann

    May 12, 2004
    yeah at first I wasn't sure wether I want a 4 or 5 Stringer.

    now, after I played some 5-string basses at the shop I'm pretty sure I want one of those :D

    only if I come across a 4-string-bass thats superior to all those 5-stringers I would go for it.
     
  18. Thornton Davis

    Thornton Davis Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Toronto
    Ibanez' SR705 is also a great bass. I was playing one this afternoon. I ordered a SR905 three months ago, but it hasn't come in yet. The store I ordered it from just received a large shipment of Ibanez products. One was the SR705NTF (natural finish) so I thought i'd check it out. Great neck, fit, finish, hardware and electronics. It's definately a very player friendly and great sounding bass for the money.

    But i'm still waiting for my SR905CNF.

    TD
    :cool:
     
  19. ESP basses are nice, very nice, however the EMG-P4 pickup kind of wasn't what I was looking for, but a beautiful sounding bass indeed. Basses loaded with a couple of EMG DC's give a lot of clarity and in a metal environment, give you plenty of grind. I however haven't achieved my long coveted Spector Euro 5/6, so I would suggest either a Jazz Bass which has a lot of grind to it with some stainless steels and some distortion :D Good luck with finding your bass. There is a bass out there for you!