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Ethnic music

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by page, Mar 15, 2006.


  1. Lately I've been getting into various forms of ...I guess world music. Bill Laswell, Secret Chiefs 3, Stravinksy, The Pogues, Charming Hostess, a bit of Zappa, 5'nizza , Miles Davis , the Gipsy Kings, and Ali Farka Toure have been major influences on me lately .

    I need some more Indian, Middle Eastern, Oriental, Russian(classical & Folk), African folk, Flamenco & Spanish Classical Music, Jewish, Irish & Celtic, and raga. Please suggest something, if it melds with rock music, that's always good.

    I have heard good things about Flogging Molly and Gogol Bordello but have yet to check either out.

    Please avoid suggesting 'elevator" music type stuff and Lord of the Dance type crap ......

    Thanks.
     
  2. Christopher

    Christopher

    Apr 28, 2000
    New York, NY
    Antibalas. Orchestra Baobab. Madredeus. That Matisyahu guy.
     
  3. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    I'm sure you know of them, but I need to make sure The Mahavishinu Orchestra... The Inner Mounting flame... perhaps one of the greatest albums ever.


    Flogging Molly is fun, you won't find much musical enlightenment from them. They just do fun Irish pub song, drinkin' music for sure.
     

  4. Of course, John M. is one of the best white translators of Eastern Music in Jazz/rock fusion.
     
  5. DaveBeny

    DaveBeny

    Mar 22, 2000
    London, UK
    If you like John McLaughlin, you've surely checked out his work with Shakti and Remember Shakti? (There's a new DVD just out - I posted a thread in 'Recordings' a couple of days ago.)

    Check out the latter Jonas Hellborg/Shawn Lane albums - 'Good People in Times of Evil', 'Icon', plus Hellborg's latest disc, 'Kali's Son'.

    There's also a fine Indian Carnatic guitarist called Prasanna (www.guitarprasanna.com) - his latest album has Victor Wooten and Alphonso Johnson sharing the bass chair.

    From the UK, there's the late British-Indian guitarist Amancio D'Silva (www.amanciodsilva.com). Saxophonist Joe Harriot's 'Indo Jazz Fusion' from the '60s is a classic, but very difficult to find.


    Gogol Bordello are a fun gypsy-punk band. More punk than gypsy I would say.

    Hasidic New Wave blend klezmer, jazz and rock.

    Amadou & Mariam are an African husband and wife team who've just had a big record in Europe - very funky. Amadou is blind but plays some brilliant lead guitar.

    From my own roots, there's Algeria's "Rai" music - Khaled, Cheb Mami and Rachid Taha are the big three right now - Taha does a great version of The Clash's 'Rock the Casbah'.

    From Morocco, check out 'Nass el Ghiwane' - masters of the 'Gnawa' style - very political too. They've been going for years and are known as the 'Rolling Stones of Morocco' - they ain't rock and roll though! They pioneered the fretless banjo too! Video: http://www.moroccanmp3.com/modules.php?name=video# - three clips labelled 'Sabra Ou Shatila', 'NassElGhiwan 2', 'Clip 03'.
     
  6. World music...Zappa...Miles? :scowl:
    :p

    Good call on the Antibalas and Orchestra Baobab, Christopher! I'm afraid I can't join in on the recommendation for Matisyahu, though. After seeing Matisyahu's band hack their way through their show a few times and after hearing of his latest debauchery, I no longer support him. :spit:

    Here are some of my recommendations:
    Dave Apollon (russian, jazz), Ensamble Gurrufio (venezuelan), Jacob do Bandolim (choro), Foday Musa Suso & Jack DeJohnette, Enno Voorhorst, Celedonio Romero (both classical), Guillermo Klein (esp. "Los Gauchos, Vol's 2 & 3"), Henry Threadgill (esp. "Carry The Day"), Akoya Afrobeat Ensemble, Eddie Bo, Gamelan music, Master U. Srinivas (raga, carnatic), Andres Segovia, Vinicius Cantuaria, Paco Delucia (preferably with Carles Benavent on bass), Simon Mayor (celtic, irish), Radim Zenkl, Trilok Gurtu, Fela Kuti and Tony Allen, Joe Zawinul, Flora Purim/Airto Moreira, Bireli Lagrene (currently doing gypsy), Andy Statman (jewish, klezmer), John Zorn (avant, klezmer), Bembeya Jazz National, GONG, Boubacar Traore, Jackie Mittoo, Ernest Ranglin, Hawaiian Slack Key Guitar Masters, El Gran Combo, Gerardo Nuñez, Quartet Novo, Hermeto Pascoal, Barbarito Torres, Michel Alibo and Fernando Huergo, to name a few.

    I play lots of mandolin so that might might explain the amount of mandolinists in there. :D
    You can find some of those albums and other really good ones on David Grisman's label Acoustic Disc.

    Also, check out anything released by the late, great Clement "Sir Coxsone" Dodd and his label Studio One from Jamaica. "Studio One Funk" is a good one to start with, I think. Soul Jazz Records in London is a good online resource.
     
  7. James Hart

    James Hart

    Feb 1, 2002
    toms_river.nj.us
    Endorsing Artist: see profile
    Sevara Nazarkhan
    http://realworldrecords.com/sevara/
    Traditional Uzbekistan music mixed with western grooves.
    (I saw her open for Peter Gabriel... I dug it)

    I also have a video recorded off Direct TV of Sinead O'Connor doing Irish folk mixed with african rhythms... not sure if it was released audio only. It was fairly recent ~5 years old.

    Afro Celt Sound System
    http://realworldrecords.com/afrocelts/
    I've only got one... "Volume 3 : Further In Time". Kinda cheesed out in the Yanni / Enya way but has Peter Gabriel and Robert Plant as guest vocalists.
     
  8. DaveBeny

    DaveBeny

    Mar 22, 2000
    London, UK
    Come to mention it, Robert Plant's 2005 album 'The Mighty Rearranger' is very good rock with a "world" influence. HIs current band, The Strange Sensation are scorching. 'Freedom Fries' has a classic Zep-esque riff with a hint of Morocco.
     
  9. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    I hope this doesn't get interpreted the wrong way, but listing those bands/artists and saying you're getting into world music is a bit like an american saying he's been abroad because he's been to Hawaii.

    VintageBT6Lover's list is great. I've never seen anyone else mention Hermeto before. Bonus points for adding Quarteto Novo.

    I'll add Radamés Gnattali and Cesaria Evora (Cape Verde) to the list.

    Threads like this pop up once in a while. You can find more suggestions here.
     

  10. I just listed them because they incorporate elements of World Music that I dig. I'm not that well schooled on World Music so I posted this thread as a way of getting into more. Forgive me if I was way outta the ballpark.

    Thanks for the suggestions, I'm gonna look into these.
     
  11. DaveBeny

    DaveBeny

    Mar 22, 2000
    London, UK
    Youtube videos of a few of the artists mentioned in this thread:

    Nass el Ghiwane - 'Iahmami'
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=PtH34ww9eVI

    Khaled - 'Didi'
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=tGkUE92YcF0 (nice slap bass groove)

    Amadou & Mariam - 'Taratata'
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=OTo6yJsCAVE

    Gogol Bordello - 'Start Wearing Purple'
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=p_81l4DXlwM

    Some classic John McLaughlin and Shakti:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=MFOwGfpoZhA

    Paco de Lucia band - 'Palenque'
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=xZU8mRnCa9I
     
  12. Snarf

    Snarf

    Jan 23, 2005
    New York, NY
    CELTIC:
    Wolfstone (for all intents and purposes now defunct; avoid This Strange Place, and know that Seven and Almost an Island have the electric guitar as lead vocalist rather than Ivan Drever, and he's nowhere near as good) - this band brought insane rock to Scottish music. HUGE sound.

    Capercaillie (http://www.capercaillie.co.uk) - GENIUSES. Karen Matheson is my favorite singer. Check out especially Delirium and Secret People. Crosswinds and Sidewaulk are both very trad-heavy if you want that side of the band.

    Clannad - earlier stuff very trad, I prefer the recent albums Lore and Landmarks.

    Seven Nations - American band playing Scottish style. Neil Anderson is a monster piper.

    Battlefield Band - folk-heavy Scottish band. Huge catalog, but imho the essential stuff can be found on all the records with Davy Steel (RIP, sang and guitared on Rain Hail or Shine and Leaving Friday Harbor) and the preceding live album Across the Borders.

    OTHER STUFF:
    DEFINITELY check out Cirque du Soleil's soundtracks. My favorites are Alegria, Quidam, and O.

    Francesca Gagnon (http://www.francescagagnon.com) - sang on Alegria, her new album Hybrid is incredibly. Words don't do it justice. While you're at it try finding Au Dela Des Couleurs on eBay or something. Both albums are sublime.

    Shiva in Exile - kind of hardcore electronic Indian/Middle Eastern fusion. Great music.

    Curandero - Kai Eckhardt plays with an amazing flamenco guitar player.

    TranceVision - downtempo chill tunes mixed with some really uptempo electronica. Good stuff.
     
  13. flatwoundfender

    flatwoundfender

    Feb 24, 2005
    Osibisa is a mixture of carribean and african styles.
     
  14. Thanks Blackbird! It means a lot coming from someone who's been here for a while! :p

    Also, thanks to David for the vids! Man, Youtube is just blowin' up, huh?!
     
  15. Interesting. The Khaled video is like a mixture of Robert Palmer's "Simply Irresistible" and Michael Jackson's egyptian-themed music video.

    Who was playing bass with Paco?
     
  16. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    Oh, please. When a person joined has nothing to do with it. We have folks who joined this year who feel like they've always been here, while there are others who have been here as long as me and are merely tolerated by the vast majority of TBers...like me!

    You're doin' good.:p
     

  17. +1

    Though i'd argue some of their song content does have some enlightenment in them ("Grace of God Go I" being one of them)
     
  18. Any of you heard of Tcheka? His CD/DVD set 'nu mondo' is pretty damn good. He's from Africa I believe. Great music.