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ever have gear that made you sick?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by pcake, Feb 26, 2016.


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  1. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    since i turned 40, i started developing sensitivities and allergies, and i never know when some will pop up. not long ago, i picked up a used GK 112, and first off i was loving it. it sounded just great - in fact, it delivered the sound i hear in my head when i play while making my carvin BX250 sound better. it also fit perfectly in the space i wanted it to sit in.

    after a few days, i started having breathing problems - first a sore throat, then a worse sore throat, runny nose and finally tightness and wheezing in my chest that got worse. i've gone through this a few times, notably when ikea changed their billy bookcases (btw, ikea stepped up to the plate, got the bookcase out of my house in hours when i reported the problem to them and refunded me quickly). but never with gear.

    i can't know for sure it's the cab - we had a few new things in our house at that time including a huge piece of mahogany my husband got to make me a through neck. we got the wood out of the house and bagged up everything else new including the cab.

    and it's come time to start unbagging things, one at a time. i REALLY want the problem to not be my GK cab, as love everything about the tone, weight and dimensions, and i also don't want the hassle of selling it. hopefully it'll be fine, but if the problem is the cab, there's no way to know if the problem is the GK glue or other components or if i'm reacting to something in the previous owner's storage. i've spent plenty of time in stores around GK gear, but it took me days with it - or whatever the problem is - in the house to get sick. so spending times in stores wouldn't be enough time for the problem to arise.

    thanks for "listening" - i guess i needed to vent. the first time i had this issue, i got really really ill from it before i figured out on my own it had to be an allergy or sensitivity (3 doctors told me i had developed asthma, but they were wrong). it took me the better part of a year to recover. so i'm scared to unwrap the cab. but there's no sense in having it here, wrapped in plastic with me playing through my fender bronco 40.

    anyone else here ever have allergies to your gear?
     
  2. pacojas

    pacojas "FYYA BUN"

    Oct 11, 2009
    MEXICANADAMERICA
    not gear, but i once had a gf that i was allergic to. at times when our skin touched i would start feeling extremely itchy. her body pH was like me swimming in an acid bath. we talked it over and decided it was something she was eating. after one particular incident left me scratching like a dog with a "hot spot" i asked what she had eaten that day. when she mentioned eating a raw apple, a light went off in my head. the enzymes present in fresh apples make me itch internally & externally, so i avoid them.
    well, that day she swore off apples and her skin and/or sweat never bothered me again.
    does that sound ridiculous or what?!! there may be a more logical explanation, but i haven't heard it,.. yet!

    i once bought a cab that reeked of cat piss and made my nose run,.. but i had to tell someone about my irritating gf! ;)
     
  3. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    not ridiculous at all - it makes sense, and a good thing you figured it out! that's a pretty unique story!!!
     
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  4. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    It's a used cab - just as likely it's mold, cat hair, or something similar. Are there stores near you with lots of GK gear - try sitting among it all and see if it makes you react.
     
  5. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    i have often sat with GK gear, but it usually takes a couple days of exposure for this allergy to affect me.
     
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  6. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Febreeze and several other companies make allergen "killing" sprays that take down pet dander, dust mites and other stuff that usually gets those with sensitive airways. Maybe hit it with that?

    Also, if you have a a screened in porch leave it outside on a sunny day. (Or jist outsode in general if you are gonna be there to keep an eye on it.) UV from the sun does wonders on all kinds of "bugs". I have a family member who does epidemiology "stuff" for a living. She still hangs her sheets and pillow cases out to dry when possible because she says it kills germs that washers and dryers can't get. Of course, don't do that in the Spring if pollen gets you going.

    Good luck with this. Let us know how it turns out.
     
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  7. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    good thoughts, but i don't have problems with pet dander, pollen or dust stuff. it seems to be mostly from furniture, and neither doctors nor i have ever figured out specifics.

    worth a shot, but did try this with some things that had been exposed to stuff that i reacted to with no luck. still, i suppose there's no reason to assume this is the exact same thing. we're in a condo complex, but can probably put the cab out on the gated porch - the weather should be good this weekend, so i'll try it. thanks!
     
  8. Plucky The Bassist

    Plucky The Bassist ZOMG! I'm back from the dead!

    Jul 30, 2010
    Houston, TX
    Totally thought you were going with "her talking/nagging made me turn into a zombie with little lucidity and cognitive communication skills. Basically it centered around my buying gear...the gear doesn't nag me unless it's a string change so I kept it. Allegra didn't make a formula for allergies to girlfriends."
     
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  9. Michael B

    Michael B

    Dec 16, 2015
    Lowell, MA
    This is absolutely possible. I have similar issues. Wood itself, pollen, mold, plus dust, cat dander etc. All possible. If you aren't already, see a Dr specializes in allergies. I am getting shots for numerous allergies now. Hopeful it works.
     
  10. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    how are the shots working for you?
     
  11. Michael B

    Michael B

    Dec 16, 2015
    Lowell, MA
    Hard to say now. It takes a year or more to notice benefit. Plus the treatment itself aggrivates symptoms sometimes. About 6 months in. The potency builds up slowly. Last week while cutting alder I had a really bad reaction. It took me years to get to the right alergy dr. Now so many things about asthma, sleep problems and food allergies makes more sense. The shots are only geared towards environmental allergies but not food but I believe I am becoming less sensitive to food allergies lately. The best thing I ever did was push for a specialist in allergies. The other Drs and spevislists didn't help nearly as much. It has made a huge impact on quality of life. Highly recommend a specialist.
     
  12. Michael B

    Michael B

    Dec 16, 2015
    Lowell, MA
    One disconnect with allergy Dr's is they usually deal with tree pollen allergies. So they don't fully appreciate allergies to the actual wood or sawdust. It helps to take pictures of the skin reaction or talk with them while you are reacting if it's breathing related etc. They don't ignore a reaction even if its not a usual irritant.
     
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  13. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    I understand, but there is a difference between on cab and a bunch of cabs. To me it points to the possibility of something IN the cab, rather than the cab itself, that is causing your reaction.
     
  14. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    very helpful and informative post. thank you.

    IN the cab?
     
  15. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Perhaps "with" would be a better choice of words. I understand you say that it takes a while for you to react, but we are only talking one small box in a big room, as opposed to many of them in a space in a music store - which I think would be similar (I've dealt with cat allergies my entire life). The fact that it is a used cab, and I have never heard of this before with GK, makes me think it likely would be mold (they often get stores in damp places), animal dander, or something similar, rather than something in the original cab.[/QUOTE]
     
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  16. arbiterusa

    arbiterusa

    Sep 24, 2015
    San Diego, CA
    Wood allergies are quite common. Crapload of guys died back in Britain's shipbuilding days from "cabinetmaker's disease", rosewood allergy/poisoning. I also worked with a guy that developed a really bad allergy to superglue, that one eventually put him permanently out of work.

    If by chance you're allergic to something in your amp - and that's unlikely, it's had a lot of time to dry out - it's almost certainly going to be the glue.

    Good luck.
     
  17. Big Hoss

    Big Hoss Up note, down note, blue note, brown note...

    Allergies are a BIG part of the reason I am very leery of used / older equipment. I live in a humid environment, and mold is a very common problem, particularly with anything involving rat fur, or MDF construction! Gives me a huge rash... There are some venues I have played I know ahead of time I need to take meds before I go or I won't make it through the show without being miserable... BTW, try to steer clear of Benadryl if you want to be functional...

    What's really scary is I have actually seen black mold on basses and guitars before. People storing them in the garage next to water heaters or utility sinks. (*** is wrong with some people!) so yeah, I am leery for good reason...
     
  18. I didn't have any problem with my GK amp. But I did buy a new Traynor the other day and when I got it home and set it up I was sneezing quite a bit for awhile.

    But it's gone now and no sneezing anymore.
     
  19. Timmy-Watts

    Timmy-Watts I like bass. And airplanes. Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2010
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    I got an amp this week. It gave me a headache when I turned it on after a few minutes. Both times. I sent it back.
     
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  20. Timmy-Watts

    Timmy-Watts I like bass. And airplanes. Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2010
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Re: GK... I was in a Sam Ash a few months back, went to try out a bass, plugged it into a GK stack, and it immediately sizzled, sparked and burst into flames. Lots of smoke. I pulled the plug and it stopped. The store guys were not fazed. They didn't even care. It was supposedly new and they would just return it. Go figure.

    That smell was on me the rest of the day.
     

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