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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by gary mitchell, Feb 13, 2019.
vintage this , and vintage that, is vintage better are, does it means just old crap.
Holy grammar batman. Could you re write the post in a way that makes sense? (perhaps some punctuation)
I guess if its over 25 yrs or so, its technically vintage. As for is it good or better than something made today? You can only really judge it on a case by case basis. Some cases yes, some cases no, some the jury is still out. Sometimes its just different and will depend on the tastes of the person asking the question.
I’m going to re-read the original post in 40 years to see if it’s still crap.
Nope. If it isn't older than me it isn't vintage. Newer than that its just used.
FedEx defines a vintage instrument as being over 20 years old (where they cap the insurance value at $1000).
Funny how my ‘97 Fender CIJ ‘51 Reissue is considered vintage.
Both bitter and poorly written. A win for everyone.
If it's older than me? If it's got pick ups in it, it's verging on an antique. And, it would be so rare, I couldn't afford it anyway - even if it wasn't left handed...
Personally, I kinda like "vintage" instruments. And, no, it isn't because I think they're "Better" than new ones; a lot of the ones I have probably aren't - assuming you could get a new one. And, for a bunch of mine? You can't. For instance:
My 1963 ODE Model 3 banjo. Collectors call these "Boulder ODEs", because they were made by a husband & wife in a back-to-nature, mountain commune near Boulder, Colorado. Hand cast aluminum body/tone ring, and unusual in that they used Grover guitar tuners, rather than the usual (and fussy) banjo tuners. The husband & wife still make banjos - under the name OME - but not aluminum bodied ones. Is my "vintage" ODE better than a new OME? In a word - NO. But, it is a very good one; it's old and kinda cool; and has an interesting history. And, long scale, left handed 5-string banjo's are hard to find...
My 1987 Rick 330 guitar. 31 years old, so technically it's vintage. Is it better than a new one? No, probably not; but, I doubt that it's any worse, either. But, what it is, is a hollow body 330. Shortly after mine was made, the 330's became semi-hollow - as they still are today. Which one sounds better? That's debatable, but - I prefer the tone I get from mine. If you do, too? Then, it's vintage or nothing...
My 1978 Kramer 450B lumie. Yeah, there are other aluminum-necked basses, but if you want one of these? Then, it's gotta be vintage. And, honestly; I can't really imagine that anybody today could build one of these any better than this. Well, maybe if they managed to fix the insane neck dive...
My 1994 Gretsch Broadkaster wasn't vintage when I bought it - but this year it is. Is it better than a new Gretsch? I'd have to say - probably not. It's what's known as a "Pre-Fender" Gretsch (after the family got the company back from Baldwin, and before their partnership with Fender). While they're more desirable to collectors, Pre-Fender Gretsches do have.. flaws... that the newer ones don't. Would I rather have a new one? Yeah, I would. If Gretsch still made Broadkaster basses - which they don't; and, if they made lefties - which they don't. I have this one, and live with it's foibles, because it's the only left handed Gretsch bass I've ever seen - that wasn't a conversion, or a stupidly high $$ custom from the '50s...
So, in my case, I have these - and several more - "vintage" instruments for several reasons. But, not because I think that "vintage" = "Better". I either just like them; I just can't get a new one; or, it's because it's a vintage one - or nothing...
The term Vintage requires a year to qualify it, ie; vintage 1936. Vintage without a date means nada.
My avatar bass is circa 1937. If an old instrument carries its years well then it's "vintage." Otherwise, it's just "fermented."
Punctuation is your friend. The last part of your post "is vintage better are does it means just old crap" makes no sense.
If you don't like vintage or think it's crap, don't buy it.
What’s the difference between a rabbit?
Not sure why but I checked out the OP’s profile and he has this info posted there, so I thought I’d share:
“I have loved music since I was a kid, learn to play by ear listening to 45 RPM records. And if I miss spelled words use the wrong words please for give me. I was born with add and I have a severe Phonics problem, I was diagnose with not being able to hear certain vowels sounds in words, which causes me not to be able to spell well and when to use certain words in a sentence, like are ,or and such. thank God the college I went to helped me. But I have been made fun of most all my life, i left the Telecaster forum because all the smart remarks I got. But by the grace of God it does not effect my music. 30 some years playing in church, Christian Rock and metal bands, and even a couple of blues and country bands, my favorite would be Blues and contemporary worship”.
This fire ant-style onslaught of hilarious, smart-alecky comments due to one person's poor grammar is one of the many things I love about TalkBass.
One commonly accepted definition of vintage is “of old, recognized, and enduring interest, importance, or quality : classic”
That made me laugh hard enough to startle my dog!
It can be pretty damn amusing!
That's easy, "Neither leg are both the same."
Vintage is vintage. Doesn’t make it good or bad.