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EXTREME improvised music

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by Peter McFerrin, Jan 31, 2002.


  1. This ain't your granddaddy's jazz we're talking about 'round these parts. I'm talking about Derek Bailey, Sonny Sharrock, Albert Ayler, Peter Broetzmann, late-'60s Sun Ra...stuff like that. The kind of stuff that makes King Crimson's skronk-heavy THRaKaTTaK sound like Brahms, essentially.

    Anybody else into this stuff? Anybody have any recommendations for albums to get?
     
  2. Christopher

    Christopher

    Apr 28, 2000
    New York, NY
    Check out Anthony Braxton and Art Ensemble of Chicago. Also Cecil Taylor. That's some weird stuff that was coming out at around the same time as Ayler, Sun Ra etc.

    Modern artists...John Zorn, some Tribal Tech, and anyone featured in the English music rag "The Wire".
     
  3. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    ...all good stuff(IMO!) ;)

    I have but one disc with guitarist Derek Bailey...it's the Arcana project with Tony Williams & Bill Laswell.
    Totally out & out sonic noiz...not for the faint of heart! ;)

    Of course, a couple of 'classics'-
    Coltrane's Ascension & Coleman's Free Jazz. Also, 'Trane's Meditations, Stellar Regions, & even Interstellar Space.
    "Similiar" is Brotzmann's Nipples...the Dried Rat Dog 4-tet is also happenin'(Hamid Drake on cans).

    Last Exit(Sharrock, Laswell, Brotzmann, & Ronnald Shannon Jackson)...
    The Music Revelation Ensemble w/ "Blood" Ulmer.

    Some others in my lode-
    Ayler's Spiritual Unity
    Roscoe Mitchell's Sounds(mid-'60s AACM stuff)
    Other Dimensions In Music...this 4-tet has William Parker, Hamid Drake, Roy Campbell, & Daniel Carter.
    Cecil Taylor's Spiritual Unity & Nailed
    Assorted Matthew Shipp discs...
    ...more William Parker/Drake stuff(Two Days On April & Painter's Spring).
    Lester Bowie's American Gumbo
    Muhal Richard Abrahms.

    David S. Ware's 4-tet: Balls-to-the wall blowin'.

    Braxton, Threadgill, Hemphill, David Murray...

    Songlines I really like-
    ...it's a trio of Brotzmann, Rashied Ali, & Fred Hopkins.
    Don Pullen, Sam Rivers, etc.


    ...& then there's Captain Beefheart.

    I'll think of some more a little later.
    (& I could use some Sun Ra recs).
     
  4. Steve Lawson

    Steve Lawson Solo Bass Exploration! Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2000
    Birmingham, UK
    There's a great free improvisation scene in France - you've got to check out Marc Ducret if you've not heard him before, he's a fascinating fretless guitarist. Also worth checking out are Bruno Chevillion, Louis Sclavis, Henri Texier, Vincent Courtois, and others - there are so many great improv musicians in France right now. I've got a new free improv trio with a french Fretless guitarist called Franck Vigroux and a percussionist called Jerome Cury (album out end of the year, MP3s available in the next month hopefully)...

    Other faves include anything with David Torn on (often not as out as Derek Bailey et al, but still a serious improvisor) and a solo guitarist from LA called Andre LaFosse who has opened for me in concert a couple of times - check out his solo guitar downloads from http://www.altruistmusic.com - he's great!

    cheers

    Steve
    www.steve-lawson.co.uk (new real audio previews from forthcoming improv duo CD)
     
  5. JimK: most of that stuff is on my "to buy ASAP" list.

    Steve: do you know if any of these guys have websites with free downloads available? I'm a try-before-I-buy kinda guy with music (but not with basses ;) )

    Christopher: I haven't even a microscopic fraction of an idea where to begin on the Braxton discography. I like how the Cook/Morton Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD mentioned that there is more Braxton currently availabe than Coltrane and Ornette Coleman put together. Any ideas?
     
  6. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    The other day, I was checking out some of Charles Ives' non-symphonic works..."The Gong On THe Hook & Ladder or Fireman's Parade On Main Street"(how's that for a title?!) & "Hallowe'en".
    Both pieces are approx 2 minutes long...
    Both sound very much like the sorta thing all the Free Jazzers do...(though Ive's pieces are using 'symphonic' instruments)
    Here's the kicker-
    Ives' stuff is composed & written out. Pretty darn cool(& I can understand why each piece is a mere 2 minutes...I can't imagine writing out such madness). ;)