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Extreme Rehersals?

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by Croox, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. Croox


    Sep 16, 2007
    South Side Chicago
    Alright here's the deal I'm juggling two metal bands that I'm playing with now, the one I've been in the longest (see sig) were set in our ways being played in a band before, we get together once a week for 2 hours to write some new stuff or to rehearse if needed.

    Now the second band I'm in has a few issues I've never dealt with and I was looking for outside opinions. its more about our rehearsals than anything. we have to practice for no less than 8 hours. and its a balls out 8 hours too. our singer will sing until he cant talk,One of my gui****s will play until he gets blood blisters on his fingers and the drummer will be at the point of exhaustion. I've never run across guys that rehearse like this its insane. I've voiced my opinion on this and gotten the response "Dude you gotta practice like this to make it in this industry" :confused: I've been playing guitar then to bass 7 yrs ago and been playing collectively since i was 12 (25 now) Did I miss a musicians memo in the two years i stopped playing while i was at school? Is this really healthy for my bandmates? I'd like some info or if anyone has had similar experiences.
  2. dj150888


    Feb 25, 2008
    Belfast, Ireland
    Nah, they're doing too much, eventually its gonna blow out. 8 hours in a room in a creative situation will eventually cause people to get sick of eachother.

    The fact that they're talking about "making it in this industry" would get the sirens going for me. They sound like they're doing it for fame rather than love of music. I couldn't play with people like that.

    a 3 hour practice a week (15minute tea break in there) is plenty of practice, it shouldn't be 8 hours anyway, though you should be practicing those extra 5 at home yourself.
  3. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    I like 5, 8, 10, and 12 string basses
    When I get tired of playing I stop ... If the rest of the band wants to contimue that's their privelage.

    So if you want to make it you have to practice ...

    Well there is practice and there is also obsessive compulsive disorder.

    I remember years ago some band wanted to rehearse like 3 or 4 times a week ... If I played that much with some band I would want to kill them all ...
  4. fourstringdrums

    fourstringdrums Decidedly Indecisive Supporting Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    It's quality, not quantity.
  5. Sahm


    Dec 18, 2007
    Delaware, OH
    There's a problem if a band needs to rehearse 8hrs a pop!

    I agree with three hours max- and a break.

    Assuming everybody is doing their homework, rehearsal should be about working out the kinks. As far as writing, I hate when folks try to force creativity. If an idea is 50/50, give it time to simmer in your heads. Typically, someone thinks it HAS to be forced out, then a potential idea turns to crap!

    Group band writing is a pain. I prefer half-songs started by one or two members that get fleshed out, instead of starting from scractch!
  6. Croox


    Sep 16, 2007
    South Side Chicago
    I know I get fed up around the 4 hour mark and normally want to go home.
    the only person who really say anything about "making it" is our singer, and the last band he was in was back in 01. I've explained to him numerous times about how much the industry has changed and what direction its going, but I'm always blown off. he also got the "must top you syndrome with everything you say (ie Me: I wipe with Charmin, Him: I wipe with Charmin Ultra)"
  7. Blueszilla

    Blueszilla Bassist ordinaire

    Apr 2, 2003
    The Duke City
    Singer needs a sharp blow to the back of the head with a blunt, preferably heavy, object.
  8. dj150888


    Feb 25, 2008
    Belfast, Ireland
    You sound like you already know the answer mate, forget them! You don't want to waste your time with people so dillusional.
  9. Juniorkimbrough


    Mar 22, 2005
    Mississippi / Memphis, TN
    Endorsing Artist: Lakland Basses
    you gotta admire that kinda dedication but that's way too much!

    what the heck do you practice for 8 hours straight? do they have that much material or is it just the same tunes multiple times?

    do these guys have jobs? I don't see how it's physically possible to work a normal job then practice 8 hours.

    btw, playing gigs is how you attempt to "make it" not rehearsing 8 hours straight.
  10. scottbass

    scottbass Bass lines like a big, funky giant

    Jul 13, 2004
    Southern MN
    Yeah, 3 to 4 hours (with a break) is plenty, IMHO. I suspect anything longer than that might actually hurt rather than help. Everyone should also be putting in their own time at home, of course, and not counting on one 8-hour thrash to get it all done for that week.

    You don't really need our advice, do you? It should be pretty obvious that you don't need to associate with these people any longer unless you want to make some real changes in your life and become just like them.
  11. TonyP-

    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Boston Mass
    A-Designs Mike Lull GK Tsunami Cables GHS Strings RMI Basswitch Nordstrand Pickups Darkglass
    This is not shoveling coal.

    This is a creation with some mental and a bit of physical muscle memory (for the actual mechanics themselves).

    Marathon rehearsals before the studio time I can see...not 8 hours.

    They would best serve themselves if they put more time into personal practice and recording themselves as individuals and maximizing your rehearsal time.
  12. txbasschik


    Nov 11, 2005
    Leander, Texas
    Not at all healthy!!!

    Did you know that David Koresh (the Waco cult-leader) used to make his cult members sing for hours and hours at a time? They used that technique for mental and emotional conditioning.

    Don't do it, man. Eight hour rehearsals are ridiculous. And cult-like!

    Cherie :bassist:
  13. Croox


    Sep 16, 2007
    South Side Chicago
    I normally stop when i'm tired anyway or when our drummer goes out of time I spray him with my water bottle :D
    one the the bands I was in back in my high school days practiced every chance we got, it was easy though we all where within walking distance of each other.
    agreed and I've told them this, I think we should work slowly I'd rather have 2 good sounding songs that are musically tight and done than 6 rough songs that aren't finished
    forcing out music is bad and it is effecting us, they want to play shows really bad, but we've got 3 rough songs and 2 covers (the two i learned for my try out.) and they did book a show for tomorrow :mad: which I've voiced my opinion on it very strongly
    I've thought the same, he cant see well so he wouldnt know who did it :ninja: :p
  14. Croox


    Sep 16, 2007
    South Side Chicago
    i wasn't really asking for opinions, I was just explaing the situation and seeing if anyone has dealt with people like this before, and their experiences. I've been in/out of quite a few bands and I've never met people like this before, maybe I've been lucky, I was leaning to bailing out of the band anyway.
  15. etoncrow

    etoncrow (aka Greg Harman, the Mad Hatter Gold Supporting Member

    Your practice room has to stink cause you guys have been beating dead horses for hours on end....

    The only time I remember ever doing anything like this was when I was in a band and we kicked out one of the member's wives. Needless to say there was a lot of stress between him and the other three of us. We went on a retreat to the mountains to "regroup". In the morning each of us was responsible for a workshop; one hour each for fretboard, rhythm, theater/stage presence and vocals. In the afternoon we reworked the songs (all originals) for me to grasp the high harmonies she used to sing. After dinner we got a buzz and jammed until we were exhausted. It worked. After three days we were a unit again. In retrospect we did reprogram ourselves. Only needed to do it the one time though.
  16. Juniorkimbrough


    Mar 22, 2005
    Mississippi / Memphis, TN
    Endorsing Artist: Lakland Basses
    8 hours for 5 songs? ouch...that has to be extremely exciting!

    i would run as fast as you can away from these guys..
  17. scottbass

    scottbass Bass lines like a big, funky giant

    Jul 13, 2004
    Southern MN
    I've never experienced a band like this. I do remember reading that this is the way Lynyrd Skynyrd started, however...
  18. ErebusBass


    Feb 20, 2008
    Madison, WI
    I've had some marathon rehearsals before recording, but never eight hours, and with lots of five minute breaks. When I start seeing the blisters on me fingers I say enough. Are they even good? How can you make it through an eight hour session with three rough original songs?
  19. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    Stupid approach. Stupid assumptions.

    No way this is worthwhile. Change their minds or get out.
  20. Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

    Alvaro Martín Gómez A. TalkBass' resident Bongo + cowbell player

    Just FYI: Geddy Lee said in an interview that Rush's rehearsal regime for every new tour is like this:

    "We rehearse from 12 PM to 5 PM every afternoon, five days a week, for about four weeks. Before that, we've each already had about three weeks of individual rehearsal so we know our parts -Or we think we know our parts."

    He also said that after those four weeks rehearsing at his home studio, there are two more weeks of full-scale production. They rent a small arena for that.

    But of course, we're talking about a major act preparing for a world tour!