I've come to the conclusion that these are not the pickups for me. Just not my sound. I'm a tried and true Bartolini fan! They've only been in my bass for a couple months and played 4 gigs. Will post pics as soon as I take them out my bass. Outright sale $210 FIRM shipped. I will only trade for US Bartolini Classic Series MK5's or P2's (complete sets).