Fake 2017 American Standard or genuine?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Shorty3, Jun 28, 2020.

  1. Shorty3


    Dec 25, 2015
    So, after reducing my bass collection to only two short scales, a Mustang PJ and a Bronco, I realised that I miss a MIA P bass like the 2014 AS that I had and now regret having sold last year.

    Long story short, I came accross this ad which apparently sells a 2017 American Standard Precision.
    As far as I know the American Standard series were discontinued in 2016.
    Could this be legit or is it a fake?
    Pickguard is tort, so could still be Am St, but 2017 serial number...hmm... and are those tuning machines still covered in plastic another fake?
    All else seems legit, case is the same I had with my 2014 AS, headstock reads "MADE IN USA" while Am Pro series read "Corona CA".
    As for the pickup if it has the 60's CS I should remove it and check, CS pickups should have period correct cloth output wires.

    Anybody can help?
    Thanks in advance!






  2. I too think that the AS’s were discontinued in 2016 as well. So Im not sure about this one, I will say the headstock looks a little wonky to me, and I may be wrong but I dont think the AS fenders read “Corona, California” on the Neck Plate.

    Im gonna say this is either a decent looking fake, or a parts bass.

    It does however appear to have a good looking case, may lend a hand to the fact of this just being a parts bass.
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  3. Ghastly


    Oct 18, 2015
    Mill Valley
    At a glance I'd say it looks authentic. Can't remember about the Corona, Ca stamp or not. Why not check the serial #?
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  4. Shorty3


    Dec 25, 2015
    Thanks for your input guys.
    Yes I might check the serial number on the Fender website.
  5. vid1900


    Dec 12, 2019
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  6. Shorty3


    Dec 25, 2015
    I just entered the serial number in the Fender product registration webpage and it says "no results", so yes, might only be a parts bass.
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  7. Shorty3


    Dec 25, 2015
    Thanks! I also made this search.
    Well, I will stay away from that bass, also considering the price.
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  8. vid1900


    Dec 12, 2019
    Some recent years, fender replacement necks had the "00" after the year code.

    So a 2019 replacement neck might have a serial of US1900xxxx rather than a neck that was shipped attached to a body would be US19xxxxxx

    If you search the serial number of a replacement neck, nothing comes up (not even "2017 Elite replacement neck, Maple/Ebony"
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  9. Shorty3


    Dec 25, 2015
    At this point I might consider buying a brand new American Professional Precision and swap the V-mod pickup for a 62 Custom Shop as well as swapping the mint pickguard for a tort.
    I will still be missing the medium jumbo frets though.
  10. vid1900


    Dec 12, 2019
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  11. Shorty3


    Dec 25, 2015
  12. Shirobon


    Jun 16, 2020
    Wrong indeed. 2010 AS P-Bass here.
    And you can check the serial of mine, US10099676.
    See above.

    But back on topic, it seems indeed to be a parts bass, I tried OP's serial again but with US before it and it didn't give any results. If it was built in the USA, you need to put US before the 8 digits.
  13. My memory fails me yet again it seems.
  14. Shirobon


    Jun 16, 2020
    Ah don't sweat it. I'll be the first to admit to having a dodgy memory. You just happened to be talking about a bass I've owned for a decade.

    Turning back to the OP's pic, It seems to have everything from an AS, but the serial doesn't relate to anything. It has the correct Fender spaghetti logo, the correct finish on the neck (glossy frontside, satin back with no skunk stripe), the correct string-thru bridge.. The tuners are wrong though. They look like the american professional tuners.
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  15. Isaac J

    Isaac J

    Dec 26, 2016
    Every individual component looks legit, it's just the package in which it goes together that's a bit strange.
    My theory - I'm no expert - comes from the fact Fender has ALWAYS been a very resourceful company historically.
    My reckoning is, one or more parts were leftover from the discontinued AmStd run, in the production changeover period between AmStd and AmPro, 2016/2017.
    As such, they could have easily slapped a new S/N on a leftover part, assembled the bass from excess stock and shipped it out to a dealer, maybe to free up warehouse space.
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  16. tzohn


    Apr 26, 2015
    Not sure about this but I think American Standards had 3-piece bodies.
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  17. JoeWPgh


    Dec 21, 2012
    Real or not, it's a gorgeous P.
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  18. Kro


    May 7, 2003
    New Jersey
    Some do, but some also have 2 and maybe there are even a few rare ones with 1-piece. I wouldn't use that as a way to distinguish. I personally have a 2-piece body on mine (as far as I can tell) from 2014.
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  19. jmattbassplaya

    jmattbassplaya Supporting Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    Looks real to me. Any chance it’s actually a Pro and the guy named it wrong?
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  20. basted


    Jul 22, 2017
    Hobart , Tasmania
    The tuners are similar but not the same as my 2012 Standard.