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Fast Four

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by altman, Oct 4, 2002.


  1. altman

    altman

    Oct 7, 2001
    I was jamming with some guys, and he was talking about a "fast four"

    ie I IV I I

    (is that correct?)

    Are they common?
    What are they used for?

    Thanks
     
  2. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    I dunno...
    To me, a "Fast 4" = a very brisk(fast) 4/4 tempo(like Bebop). ;)
     
  3. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    If you're talking about when playing blues, it goes like this:

    Normal blues:

    | I | I | I | I |
    |IV|IV|IV|IV|
    |V |IV| I | I |

    Blues with a "fast four" or "quick four"


    | I |IV| I | I |
    |IV|IV|IV|IV|
    |V |IV| I | I |
     
  4. Lovebown

    Lovebown

    Jan 6, 2001
    Sweden
    You're confusing me now 4 IV in a row?
    Isn't that really
    | I |IV| I | I |
    |IV|IV| I | I |
    |V |IV| I | I |

    ?

    /lovebown
     
  5. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    You're right, LB. My mistake.
     
  6. Boplicity

    Boplicity Supporting Member

    I've also heard that I IV I I progression referred to as a "quick change." In fact, I haven't ever heard of the "fast four" until this very moment. That's what I love about TalkBass, you learn something new all the time.
     
  7. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Same here. I've always known that as a "quick change" or "quick turnaround."
     
  8. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    Dang-
    I finally learned sumthin' from this site.

    For "Ss & Gs", I think I'll suggest a "Fast Four" at today's jam session...just wanna see if anyone else is as clueless as me.

    ;)
     
  9. Boplicity

    Boplicity Supporting Member

    Thank heavens...rescued by JimK (as I have been many times.) I thought I knew blues forms and I was really puzzled by the "fast four" thing, being as I had never heard it or read it anywhere.:)

    Could it mean a "fast" four bar intro???? I mean I'm scratching my head on this one.
     
  10. Socks

    Socks Guest

    The roman numerals are really confusing, someone should think about changing the numeric system around here... no offence to anyone, of course, but growing up in the 21st century the teachers call these progressions by the arabic names, ie 1-4-5-1 progressions.

    I know what you mean, just takes a while to read.

    what do you guys think?
    :confused:
     
  11. Boplicity

    Boplicity Supporting Member

    Socks, as I have seen the Roman numerals used, they serve a purpose that the numeric systen would not. When Roamn numerals are written in small case or italics, they indicate the chord is minor or a minor seven flat five.

    If one used numbers, one would have to find a way to indicate that the chord is major or minor.
     
  12. Socks

    Socks Guest

    Cheers dood. Really I didn't see a point in using them, but now I see the light. Haven't got that far in theory, you see. Still on the keys thing.

    Damned Fat cat......