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fear and trembling/ecstatic discharge

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by neptoon, Nov 15, 2001.


  1. neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc
    so, hey, jt...what's the latest and greatest? it's been a while since the last update...any new developments? we're all dyin' to know, man...at least i am :D
     
  2. LWatford

    LWatford

    Jul 28, 2001
    Helena, AL
    And how will we get these CDs when they come out?
     
  3. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    uh oh....well...uh... :D

    actually, right now, as i type, we are working on some vocals on one of the last songs - predator of dreams, on ecstatic discharge - the part we're working on now has around 16 tracks of vocals. talk about time consuming.

    a lot of the times that i am on line, we are working on the cds. pretty much every night. the same computer i log on with i also use cakewalk sonor on to drive the adats that we record to.
     
  4. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    well, we'll probably deal with it directly via mail until we can get some kind of distributor happening.
     
  5. neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc
    16 tracks? of vocals?! :eek: dear gawd...that is just scary, man...just thought i'd throw the _question_ out there. it's been a while, ya know. :D how about this: are you guys releasing them as seperate albums, or a double disc set? i'm dying to try playing little snippets on my my new curbow rockwood..just bits and pieces, mind you
     
  6. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    yeah, they will be two seperate albums, probably seperated by ~ a month. we have been doing a lot of multi-tracked vocals on quite a few of the songs. predator of dreams is part of a long set of songs (~38 mins) inspired by, but not about, dante's inferno, purgatorio and paradiso.
     
  7. you're not really naming an album ecstatic discharge, are you? ech. i dig your music, man, but you need some help with these names! :D;)
     
  8. neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc
    you should see the album cover... :D
     
  9. LWatford

    LWatford

    Jul 28, 2001
    Helena, AL
    So are you guys doing everything on the ADATs, or are you using some computer tacks also? What are the track listings like for your recordings?
     
  10. neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc
    you should go to the lord only website
     
  11. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    what's wrong with ecstatic discharge? i mean, i know it's no "take off your pants and jacket", but still, what do ya want. i'll be the first to say we're not blink182
     
  12. neptoon

    neptoon

    Jul 25, 2000
    summerville, sc
    but mark hoppus is god!!! :rolleyes:
     
  13. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    Hey, wait a minute!

    *peer*

    You're right! What was I thinking all this time??? Sorry about that. How could I confuse blink with Wild Cherries? So when are you gonna release your remastered "Play that Funky Music White Boy"?
     
  14. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    I think it's a good name. Like the sculpture with it too. If you ever do become blink I won't buy your CD's.:D
     
  15. LWatford

    LWatford

    Jul 28, 2001
    Helena, AL
    I know thier website shows their studio gear, but I got curious when I saw John's referance to Sonar.

    Lee
     
  16. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    we use sonor now (various versions of cakewalk for years) to drive and synchronize the adats, and to provide an accurate map of where in the song we happen to be at a particular moment, so that we can easily accomplish punchins and punchouts.

    the way we recorded was that i sequenced out every song's bass line and many guitar and synth parts. the drummer, jim, then played to that, a sequencer playing bass and synth, along with a click. when i recorded i played to just jim and the click, and then the guitarists both came in and played to just bass and drums, with click only on certain parts. that's one of the big reasons why this has taken so long, everything was done like this, one piece at a time. it's like hand making every brick to be used in a house. :rolleyes:

    some of the computer editing that i have to do, and will probably be doing this weekend, actually, is cleaning up some click bleed in the drum tracks - sometimes the click came through from jim's headphones into the drum mics.

    we're not doing any actual recording onto the computer, though.
     
  17. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    for instance, here's the sequence of the instrumental, converted from the cakewalk proprietary format to a plain midi file. there are sysex commands embedded in this midi file, on a track listing they are called "mmc xx" where xx will be a track number or set of numbers. these are punch in and punch out commands for the adats. they send midi system exclusive mmc (midi machine control) commands to the adats when they are armed as the sequence "plays" through them. this way we can have a set punch in and punch out when we need to work on a section, and then we just drag and drop the mmc snip to another section when we're done.

    note - change the extension on the file i have attached from ".txt" to ".mid" for it to open properly.
     
  18. Oysterman

    Oysterman

    Mar 30, 2000
    Sweden
    I thought Jim liked his Premier set? ;)

    Sorry for being such a wise-ass, but it's SonAr. :cool:
     
  19. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    tom-A-to , to-mAH-to. :D