Fearful 15/6/1 or Avatar TB-153 speaker cabinet

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by StreamerJazzman, Jul 8, 2017.


  1. StreamerJazzman

    StreamerJazzman

    Sep 1, 2013
    Hi all,
    Ive been checking out the Fearful 15/6/1 and the Avatar TB-153.
    Some say that the TB-153 is not quite as good as the Fearful. Design and Materials etc.

    I noticed at the Eminence website that they are selling 4 ohm 3015lf drivers.
    Are these the same drivers that the TB-153 4 ohm version uses?

    Also the 3015lf 4 ohm speaker from Eminence has better specs than the 8 ohm version ie:
    8 ohm: 40hz-1.5 kHz, 450 watts, 9.6mm Xmax
    4 ohm: 36hz-1.3 kHz, 550 watt, 10.64mm Xmax

    Is it possible to build an official Fearful 15/6/1 using the 4 ohm driver?
    If not will these 4 ohm specs make the Avatar a better option than the 8 ohm Fearful?

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Avatar get custom made OEM versions.

    With a 153 you can read the reviews and know what you're getting

    Ditto Fearful.

    There are no 4 ohm subwoofer Fearfuls.
     
  3. TrevorOfDoom

    TrevorOfDoom Supporting Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Austin, TX
    The Avatar wants to be a fEarful, but with off-the-shelf crossovers.
    It's not gonna perform as well, but it could perform well enough to meet your standards.
    As for the 4ohm/8ohm decision,
    I will always recommend a 8ohm cab, so you can expand later, should you need to.
    With 4ohm, you're stuck with only 1 cab (unless your amp goes down to 2ohm, which isn't a standard feature).
     
  4. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Stewartsville, NJ
    FWIW, I have an almost new Eminence 3015LF in 4 Ohm sitting in a box. I would sell it cheap if someone needs it.
     
  5. StreamerJazzman

    StreamerJazzman

    Sep 1, 2013
    Thanks for the replies!
    The question still remains:
    I noticed at the Eminence website that they are selling 4 ohm 3015lf drivers.
    Are these the same drivers that the TB-153 4 ohm version uses?

    Also the 3015lf 4 ohm speaker from Eminence has better specs than the 8 ohm version ie:
    8 ohm: 40hz-1.5 kHz, 450 watts, 9.6mm Xmax
    4 ohm: 36hz-1.3 kHz, 550 watt, 10.64mm Xmax

    Will these new 4 ohm specs make the Avatar a better option than the 8 ohm Fearful?

    Thanks again
     
  6. Foz

    Foz

    Jul 26, 2008
    Jax FL USA
    Greenie looked at the 4 ohmer and rejected it - if i recall correctly - I believe the reason was a loss in sensitivity when making the switch to 4 ohms made it less than useless as you gained little or no volume for a loss of modularity choice.
     
  7. or leaving out the big words, the amp just works way harder for little more volume.
     
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  8. StreamerJazzman

    StreamerJazzman

    Sep 1, 2013
    Thanks again,
    Considering the Fearful will cost me well over a thousand, the TB-153 "at a little more volume" for less money sounds like a winner for me! Also considering I have no desire to bring more than one cabinet to a gig.
     
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  9. StreamerJazzman

    StreamerJazzman

    Sep 1, 2013
    BTW I will be running a GK MB Fusion 800 watt amp
     
  10. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

    For less than $800 I'd be looking at the Mesa Subway 115 or Barefaced Super Compact. Either will deliver the goods compared to a Fearful, cost less, and be much lighter.
     
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  11. kekani

    kekani

    May 13, 2015
    Kapolei
    Seems to me most guys paying for Greenboy cabs fork out $ for the fEARless line. DIY a fEARful and your cost is, well, you do the math.
     
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  12. I see they want $639 for the TB 153.
    I built my 15/6/1 for about $600.
    If you can build your own, the real deal is better.
     
  13. kap'n kro

    kap'n kro Supporting Member

    May 7, 2003
    New Jersey
    I very much doubt that - a lot of the secret sauce to the Fearfuls and Fearless is the way the components are arranged, and the way the cab is built, particularly concerning internal compartments and bracing - not to mention the crossover.

    The Avatar and Greenboy cabs may seem similar from a component standpoint, but the level of engineering that went into each is definitely not equal.

    Not to necessarily completely discount the Avatar - I've never played a TB153 and it could sound good (I've actually owned 4 other Avatar cabs for the record), my only point is that there is a reason why the Greenboy cabs command a premium cost. It's just a matter of if the benefit is worth the cost to you personally.