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Fender 2x15 cab? + Sunn 2x15 content

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by bovine mind, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. bovine mind

    bovine mind

    Jun 17, 2008
    San Francisco
    I'm looking to pick up a vintage Sunn 200S 2x15 cab missing one speaker.

    it looks like this cab:


    edit: it's unclear whether this cab is 4 or 8 ohms, anyone know? i'm playing on using it with my black face Sunn Coliseum 300 head.

    I've got a Peavey Black Widow 15" lying around. Will this speaker fit and perform well in this cab?


    edit: changed the thread title to reflect input on the Fender cab now that the Sunn is out of the question.
  2. nysbob


    Sep 14, 2003
    Cincinnati OH
    I'd either match what's in there, or use two drivers that are the same.
  3. bovine mind

    bovine mind

    Jun 17, 2008
    San Francisco
    Out of a preference to preserve the original tone, or to avoid poor performance of the cab?
  4. Foz


    Jul 26, 2008
    Jax FL USA
    If the speaker pair is not matched - one will do almost all the work - until its blows.
  5. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    That's my take too. Either match what's in there or replace both preferably with drivers that will actually work well in that size cabinet.

  6. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    To answer the original question, as long as the cab is deep enough for the replacement speaker, it should fit. Mounting points for 15" speakers are pretty uniform.

    But I agree - match the speakers and pick ones that suit the cab.
  7. bovine mind

    bovine mind

    Jun 17, 2008
    San Francisco
    Thanks all. well, that's unfortunate. The guy i'm buying this from doesn't know what speakers are in the cab or what exactly is wrong with the bum speaker, and it's a long ways from me.
  8. bovine mind

    bovine mind

    Jun 17, 2008
    San Francisco
    i also have the option of buying one of these:


    the owner is unsure of the model or ohm rating but it looks to be a Fender Bassman 215 pro. all the research i'm finding is that the cab is 8 ohms. i'm guessing my Sunn Coliseum probably wouldn't put out more than 100 watts with it. both cabs are around the same price. any advice on which to go with?

    i play in a very loud band, plan on running a bass synth through this, and am a little concerned about the lower power handling of vintage speakers.
  9. bovine mind

    bovine mind

    Jun 17, 2008
    San Francisco
    still unsure, are these old Sunn cabs 4 or 8 ohms?
  10. Yeah.... you can pretty much get away with that kinda carelessness within a guitar cab, but a bass cab? Too risky for sure. Save your bucks and get TWO new 15" speakers that will operate correctly in tandem like they are supposed to.
  11. Lia_G


    Oct 27, 2005
    The Sunn has angled baffles that limit the depth of driver that can be mounted in there. The original JBL's were very shallow. Eminence Kappalite 3015s will fit, and that is what an Eminence tech recommened to me when I asked specifically about this cab. I'm trying Carvin neo drivers, which are about the same depth as the 3015. Here's a pic:


    The drivers load in from the back, and have to clear that angled piece of wood.

    They're supposed to be great cabs, very loud. 4 ohms, I believe. Mine will be when I get the two 8 ohm neos in there.

  12. bovine mind

    bovine mind

    Jun 17, 2008
    San Francisco
    Liam, thanks for that clarification. i just drove a half hour to check the Sunn out after pestering a friend enough to borrow his car only to find the speakers in complete ruin. there were three inch deep tears and chunks missing from the cones and the dust cabs were totally dented in. i've never seen speakers abused this badly, it appeared to be intentional damage to them....needless to say the cab sounded like the muffler on a volkswagen bug and didn't seem worth lowballing to haul back and find speakers for. further reinforces the need to demand a photo of the cab with the grill cloth removed before driving out. the guy wanted $250 OBO for it, claims it wasn't his cab to sell and he had no idea about the tears.

    bummer aside, anyone dig those fender cabs? think it might be loud enough running a Sunn Coliseum with it? my amp is 300 watts @ 2 ohms. i think those Fenders are 8 ohms?
  13. IME Fender 2x15's are nice cabs!!!!
  14. Oren Hudson

    Oren Hudson

    Dec 25, 2007
    Gastonia, NC
    You need at least a 4 ohm cab, preferable 2 cabs, to reach the max power on your head. However, I've discovered that with the 2 ohm heads I've played around with, adding the other 4 ohm cab has not significantly added to or increased the sound and volume. My advice to you - get a real good 4 ohm cab - then you can add another later if needed. :cool:
  15. pff


    Dec 21, 2007
    Hello Bass Heads,
    I read a lot of threads about putting Eminence 3015 Neo's in the SUNN 2x15m Bass Cabinets. Well, awhile back I bought a 73' model Sunn 190b with the 2x15"m cabinet.
    I took the old Sunn Magna alinco's out and put the 2 Eminence kappalite 3015 Neo's in the cabinet.
    Saturday night I had a outdoor GIG for about 200 people and all I can say is that the speakers and cabinet sounded "OVER THE TOP AWESOME"!!!
    Bill Fitzmaurice the cabinet builder said that you need a mid-range driver to sound good off axis. Well IMHO that is just not true. I used my wireless unit and walk all over the place, and off axis just to see if the sound suffered; it did not. In fact my P.bass lyte through the Sunn 190b sounded like a deep piano string grind with great ringing overtones everywhere out front of the stage and off to the side. Oh, and the speakers are brand new not even broke-in. Also, some of the treads suggested that the kappalites neo's are to much speaker for the old Sunn 2x15s & 2x15m cabinets, and once more IMHO that is just not true. My Lil' 60watt R.M.S. Sunn sounded as good or better than my friends SWR, Ampegs and GK's. There were a couple other bands at our gig and all the bassplayers & guitarplayers told me how great my bass sounded and how cool the old Sunn looked and they couldn't believe it was only a 60 watt amp. I've been a weekend warrior for 30 years and owned Acoustic 150's & 370's, Ampeg B-15's, B25's, BT140's and a 75 SVT/ 2 8x10's; all were great amps, but, once more in IMHO Sunn has they all bet. I'm on my third model-T( two 73" & a 76") a 78'Concert, a 200s and now my 190b.... "Blessings to all in the Bass World and Keep On ROCKIN" !!!!!
  16. Gizmot


    Mar 22, 2009
    Pittsburgh area
    Back in the 70s, the 2 x 15 Sunn was one of the best cabs money could buy. Fender never made a product that was close in my experience. I also agree that you don't need a midrange driver to sound good. It is a fact that the smaller the cone, the wider the dispersion and the better the off-axis response is. I've heard some 2-way PA cabs with horns sound awesome for bass, but they need some EQ.
  17. if that fender sounds even close to as good as it looks i'd grab it....try it with your head and see....
  18. pff


    Dec 21, 2007
    "bummer aside, anyone dig those fender cabs? think it might be loud enough running a Sunn Coliseum with it? my amp is 300 watts @ 2 ohms. i think those Fenders are 8 ohms?" "" Quote From Above""...

    I run my 78' Sunn Concert amp that is 200 watts @ 2 ohm with a 8 ohm 4x10" and it's louder than Hell... I'm not sure but @ 8 ohms it's only putting out maybe 100 watts/ or a little less. The cabinet is a 800 watt R.M.S. 4x10" w/ horn.
    Now my band has two guitarist with 50 watt Marshall half stacks and our drummer is "NOT a Basher"!! As a band we're going for great teastie sound, "NOT ", peeling paint off the walls( if you know what I mean) ...LOL....

    I'd go with that Fender Pro 2x15" cab for two reasons; one it's rated @ 400 watts R.M.S or even more.: two, even if your Sunn 300 Coliseum doesn't put out all it has @ 2 ohms it's still louder than 90% of the newer amps out there that are rated @ twice or three times the power. (Hey it's a Sunn)
  19. If I remember correctly, those Fender cabinets had 2 Eminence Delta Pro 8 ohm speakers (for a combined 4 ohms). I think it would be a great cabinet for your Sunn.

  20. pff


    Dec 21, 2007