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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Alla, Sep 25, 2002.
What do you prefer ?
Thx for your advices!
I own a Precision V, but think I should have bought a Roscoe Beck.
These are all great basses, but I prefer the Precision Deluxe V over the others... it just feels & sounds the best. I borrowed one of these (a four string version) for a recording session once & ran it through a Sansamp Bass Driver DI... the tone killed! Fat, rich, responsive, very even tones from low to high... it sounded much fatter on tape than the Tobias Killer B that I had at the time. And they're not that expensive either... it would make a fantastic backup OR main bass. Just my $.02
If you want a 5-string, there are many better. Better B string, higher output electronics, more attention to detail, better resale.....
fender 5 strings deserve to be outlawed
at lest they should make them better
Of course there are far better basses out there... but they're pretty kewl for the money & the ones I've played have been constructed fairly well. Obviously I would rather have a Fodera or an Elrick or a _____ (fill in the blank with your favorite high-end bass), but I could live with one of these for a while if I had to.
There is nothing wrong with Fender 5's, besides the B string isnt the tightest out there. I have played some that are better than others, and more expensive basses with B strings that were just as bad. I have the Mexican Deluxe V, Like it for what I payed for. Love that J tone.
Roscoe Beck V: the bass so nice I bought it twice.
It has 34" scale, alder body, passive electronics... and guess what, the B string is great. It ain't quite as tight as the B's on my boutique basses, but it's every bit as good as any comparitively priced bass. And ya know what: if you want the Fender sound it's best to get a Fender, unless you wanna spend twice as much for a Lull or three times as much for a Sadowsky.
I thought the Precision V was also cool, but it has an active tone and I was looking for passive. Haven't tried any of the Fender Jazz fivers, but the Roscoe Beck gives Jazz tone almost perfectly, plus a bunch of other nice tones as well.
My Fender FMT V can hang.
I have a Fender USA Jazz Deluxe 5-string, and my B-string is, IMO, better than average. I must have lucked out and found a good Fender 5'er.
I think part of the problem is that Fender's B-strings aren't that good. The .135 gauge tapered B-string that came on my bass when it was new was pretty bad.
More people would probably like Fender 5-strings if better strings were installed on them.
(FWIW, I use Pedulla and DR strings).
As for the poll... ...Go with the FMT.
If you can afford it, you might as well go for the top of the heap.
I have a American Jazz Deluxe V, American Jazz Deluxe FMT V, and a Roscoe Beck V. All fine basses, but each has a distinctly different character. For versatility, the FMT rules, but if you like that J-Bass growl, no other bass, high-end or not, can compete with the RB5. It was born to create that sound. The Am J Deluxe V is a good, all-around jazz bass, enhanced by the active electronics. BTW, I like D'Addario Slowounds on mine, although I've got Rotos on the RB5 right now.
All three basses are more than adequate in the fit-and-finish category. My bold assessments take into account that I have two Lakland 55-94's, a Pedulla ThunderBolt 5 fretless, and an EB MM SR5.
And ahhh, yes, the ol' floppy B-string. Given identical strings and identical scale lengths, the B string on a Squier 5-string will never be any floppier than that on a Fodera, Lakland, Sadowsky or Alembic. To produce the same frequency, the tension in the strings must be identical. The floppiness of B-string is more a function of the construction of the string. My .136 TI Jazz Flat is floppier than a mofo, because it has an interior winding of nylon. The 130 on my 55-94 fretless feels like a piece of #3 re-bar by comparison. It's the string, not the bass. Read your danged physics book.
Hands down: RB5
Munji, there is a wee bit more to it than the string, IME. I've done direct comparisons with the exact same strings on different basses (all with 34" scale lengths), and there is a difference in how the B on a Fender sounded vs. my Guitar Factory basses, and my Zon Sonus. The punch, depth, clarity, and definition of the B was severely lacking on the Mexi Jazz V Deluxe I owned versus all the other contenders. I always had to "baby" the B on the Fender, the others I could play with the same touch as the other 4 strings. That's why there ain't a Fender in my collection anymore.
I'd say that neck stiffness will have a huge effect on tone, it's a combination of all the elements that make the B work. If the neck is flexing at all with the vibration of the string, it will affect the tone and feel of it.
The only Fender I've found that had a decent B was the Roscoe Beck. I will own one of these one day. I haven't played and FMT V yet, but the one IV has impressed me.
I didn't vote because I like the passive "American Jazz V" better than any of those options. Except maybe the Roscoe Beck...
If passive tone is your thing then the RB5 is your bass. I think it might even be the best passive fiver at any price.