Fender American Professional II Jazz Bass Bone Nut Incorrectly Cut - Too Wide

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Lawrence2021, Nov 22, 2021.


  1. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    Hi All, I just received a brand new Fender American Professional II Jazz Bass. Upon attempting to change to new strings noticed that the E String Bone nut is cut much wider than the Fender supplied strings the bass came with. How can such an expensive bass have poor workmanship like this. I attached a video that demonstrates this. I don't know how to handle this. Should I get this fixed ? Is it a big deal ?
     

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  2. From a functional standpoint if the properly strung open E doesn’t rattle in the nut, and if there’s enough down pressure it probably won’t, then it’s fine. I can’t answer “at this price point” questions. Those are up to you.
     
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  3. Lownote38

    Lownote38

    Aug 8, 2013
    Nashville, TN
    Well, in both pictures, the E string is not strung properly, so there goes that plan!
     
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  4. Lownote38

    Lownote38

    Aug 8, 2013
    Nashville, TN
    Where did you get this bass? Are you sure the nut is original? The D string slot looks odd as well.
     
  5. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    Brand new Bass. Ye it's the original nut.
     
  6. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    YEs, I agree. None of the strings were strung correctly since there was not much winding evident strings were cut short. This is how Fender strung the bass.
     
  7. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    Thanks for your replies. I just cannot believe Fender did such a poor setup. There are more issues with the setup. Neck has too much of a bow, bridge is not set up correctly. String spacing is incorrect and bridge pickup is loose.
     
  8. Lownote38

    Lownote38

    Aug 8, 2013
    Nashville, TN
    I am inclined to think Fender didn't setup the bass this way. I have owned more Fenders than I can count (new and old), and the nut has always been fine. They also don't normally cut the strings short. I would suspect it was messed with where you got it from.
     
  9. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk Supporting Member

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    I'm not a Fender guy, but imperfect basses do manage to slip through QC.
    This one seems to be a FIIF bass...yes, inexcusable...but it's definitely a gamble buying online.
     
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  10. Lownote38

    Lownote38

    Aug 8, 2013
    Nashville, TN
    Fender definitely have FIIF instruments, but they usually don't have the problems described here. Those don't even look like Fender Bass strings in the picture. No silks. (Edit: looks like the basses on the Fender site have no silks, but I swear Fender bass strings have silks on them).
     
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  11. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    Yes, I agree. This is how it came into the store. All in a hardshell case and in a sealed box. Warranties, tags and paper work all included. I was there when they opened the cardboard box. I'm stunned. I don't know what to make of this. Taking this to Fender since it's under warranty. I've never seen anything like this in 20 years of playing Bass.
     
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  12. JW56789

    JW56789 Guest

    Feb 18, 2017
    Where . . . . did you buy this ? My guess was it's one of those 'tried it, returned it, didn't like it' and it had a little re-work . . . . then you bought it. NOBODY would send out a bass with those strings like that.

    Re the nut: IF it tunes smoothly without binding, and you can slip a .20 feeler gage under the first fret and it's a fit, you're good.
    '
     
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  13. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    All, In the picture I loosened the E- String ( as strung from factory )so I can demonstrate the Gap while making a video. Then noticed videos cannot be posted here. So just uploaded to Youtube
    Here is the video that shows the spacing in the E string. One can also hear the pings as it moves within the gap. The Gap is way too wide and defeats any purpose of having a Bone nut to add more to sustain if it's not going to be cut correctly.
     
  14. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    Yes, it tunes correctly, feeler gauge specs almost spot on so not concerned.
    What bothers me is what's the point of the "Bone Nut" and all the marketing stuff about it creates better sustain if the Nut is not cut correctly. It should be a tight fit. It's not even close. I'm not a luthier by any means, worked on my other bass guitars so have an idea of what is expected. I just cannot imagine how this slip QC ? I agree that it's not possible.
     
  15. aaland_brian

    aaland_brian

    Feb 1, 2010
    Time for a set of 45-130 strings to fill that gap. It really is a bummer the nut isn't cut correct, talk to the store about replacing it, I could make a new nut in no time, or you could use a pre-slotted Tusq, but they aren't as pretty as a polished bone nut.
     
  16. You meant .02 right ???
     
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  17. luciens

    luciens

    Feb 9, 2020
    If that's all that's wrong with it, you're in great shape. Don't ask me why I say that.
    If it is rattling in the slot on an open E, the piece of paper + thin super glue + careful work with new, sharp Xacto blade is a quick fix that'll hold up very well for quite a while.

    PS: just looked at your vid; yes I'd say that's too wide and for that string gauge, needs a new nut.

    So I'd send it back to Fender too, if it's a NIB also...

    I could regale you with tales of the QC on my 4 Fenders (2 Tony Franklins and 2 Jacos) that I bought new over the last 2 years, and you'd probably never feel bad about that nut ever again... :)

    L
     
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  18. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY

    OP says it should be a tight fit

    wrong

    a lot of gap and no back angle in the slots is no good, but I don’t see it here. what gauge of E string is that? Perhaps it’s light gauge.
     
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  19. Lawrence2021

    Lawrence2021

    Nov 22, 2021
    I would agree on an old Squire bass ( which I own ) to take such an approach. BTW - My Squires came better set up so guess I got lucky. But not sure if that's a
    No. I'm not wrong. See the video.
    There is a huge gap. Fender strung it up with 105 - 45. I confirmed with a Caliper. E String is 105

     
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  20. SJan3

    SJan3 Supporting Member

    Dec 8, 2010
    Ct.
    Not to be "smart" but if you were there when they took the bass out of the box, didn't you inspect it closely before accepting it?
     
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