Fender Bassman 100T and Fender Neo115 gig report.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by armybass, Aug 26, 2017.

  1. armybass

    armybass Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2001
    I grew up in the 80s when bass players were getting tuned in to aluminum cone 10 inch speakers EMG pick ups and light gauge stainless steel strings. We were trying to make the bass as bright and snappy and poppy as possible to extricate ourselves from what we thought was thud and mud tone. Since then we have been on a tonal trajectory that has apparently come full circle in my life at least.

    Last night I played a club gig in the basement type dungeon that would be fitting for a movie about the funk brothers in the 60s save the crowd. I used my Fender Bassman 100T which is the second one I purchased this year because I foolishly sold the first one, and a Fender Bassman Neo 115. I also had my G&L JB5 with Labella low tension flatwound strings.

    My tone was old-school yet very articulate. I could clearly hear the authoritative thump of the tube power section mainly when I played on the D and the G strings. The notes had a weight and a heft behind them that I was not used to hearing in a solid-state amp in a live setting. My bass tone was inspirational to me if no one else and made my night.

    More to come.
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2017
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  2. G-Dog

    G-Dog What a fun place! Supporting Member

    That's cool, @armybass. Yeah, unfortunately, nobody pays attention to the bass tone like the(a?) bass player.

    Which channel did you use? Any overdrive? Deep? Bright? Give us the deets, man, and free my soul. I wanna get lost in that Bassman tone and drift away. . .

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  3. armybass

    armybass Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2001
    Hey boss, I only use the vintage channel set "flat" from the suggested 2-10-2 starting point and only stray from that setting to maybe boost the lows up 3 maybe 4. I have a Super Bassman and a Bassman 500 and they are all used in virtually the same manner with the same settings. I intend to incorporate some drive and a nice modern clean tone eventually with these amps because
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  4. deathness


    Jan 19, 2015
    Pics or no gig
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  5. armybass

    armybass Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2001
    IKR! I can not believe I forgot to take a pic.... lame I know.
  6. deathness


    Jan 19, 2015
    Next time. Sexy-ass rig regardless.
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  7. ghostinthemach

    ghostinthemach Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2011
    Riverside CA
    Tubes rule for vintage tone. Glad you are finding 'your' signature sound! Would also like pics or your rig.

    I predate roundwounds. When they first came along it was Entwhistle, Squire and a few others with that sparkle that caught my attention as a young still on the prowl for that elusive recording contract bassist. I embraced that bright sound and never looked back... till recently. Now, first time in decades I got flats on an AVRI P and have fallen in love with the thump of my youth. I have flats and tubes for the first time in decades. Good stuff.
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  8. That's ONE of the things I love re the Super Bassman. .. being able to play ANY string, anywhere on the neck, & it STILL has the "authoritahh" to hit hard and remain solid and hefty. Glad to hear the 100T does this too.
    And the Bassman 115 matches well. .imo.. and indeed, does give that old school sound that's warm and round.
    I started gigging in the mid to late 70s. .. and had all tube amps from the get go. .. I couldn't come to grips with that trebley,clanky scooped sound of the late 80s etc. ..
    To me. ..that wasn't 'bass'. Funnily. ..most of those local players that used that tone are using either an Aggy Tone Hammer 500 or Ampeg pf500 etc and GOING for the exact sound I'd used all my life.
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  9. armybass

    armybass Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2001
    You guys have seen us come full circle in in your lives and careers too. It must be a satisfying experience to see so many bassist today hearing the true bass and tone from tube amps and flatwounds. It's not for everyone but I am a man of nostalgia. I play my bass with flats through my tube amp while watching Kojack on Hulu. ;)

    Who loves ya baby.

    Pics to come.
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  10. It does. And, I, too, have nothing against any bass tone. .. the Warwick Streamer $$5 I've got in the pic above has 5 round wound strings on. ( my other 5'ers have flats on mostly. ..tapes on one iirc.... but even they have a round wound B string as I've not found a flat wound B string I'm happy with. So. ..an old round B goes on. ..and it seems to match up better. .imo.)
    I've got the Labella white nylon tapes on my Gibson EB (2013 model ) and I'm liking them. ..but that's a 4 string.
    It IS funny tho. .. ppl who used to snigger behind my back while I was using my old 70s Fender Bassman 100 in the 80s - 90's are now using the Aggy Tone Hammer. ..pretty much copping the sound I've used all my life. .. of course, with only 4lbs of weight. .
    I've got a TH500 myself. ..and love it. .. it DOES do a GREAT job of getting THAT tone. ..in a 4lb package! !!
    But. ...I'll still (gladly) take my 40lb V4B or 65lb Fender Super Bassman tho... I still can't find THAT tone outta ANYTHING without power tubes. Close. ..real close. ..but, no cigar. :cigar:
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  11. descendent22


    Jul 29, 2015
    Sounds like youre talking about Tommy Stinson a little in the 1st paragraph
  12. loveboatcaptain


    Jan 6, 2009
    I used to have the 100T, gigged with it for years and loved it. Used flats too on my Ric.
    I sold the 100T like a fool. Since then I’ve been using the orange terror 500 with my bassman 410neo cab.

    but I need a bassman again. Need that sound! Here is my dilemma, can any of you guys help? I know you own a super bassman, bassman 100T and the hybrid bassman 500…

    I can either buy a used but excellent condition bassman 100T or the bassman 500… or the bassman 800.

    which should I got for? Will the bassman 800 (and 500) do what the 100T does? And is your bassman 500 louder than your 100T?

    I need some help with this decision as I can’t get both.
  13. G-Dog

    G-Dog What a fun place! Supporting Member

    No. The 500 and 800 do not have the power tubes and the power soak, which lets you saturate the power tubes at lower power levels. That, to me, is what the 100T "does" in comparison. The 500 & 800 do something similar with its built-in Overdrive providing the "warmth" or "crunch" you want at whatever volume you need. This is close enough for some of us, but not for others. But, for those who prefer that real power tube tone, at different power levels, then the 100T is it. ;) The Super Bassman has the power tubes, but not the power soak.​

    Louder?!? I think the numbers 100, 500 & 800 give you some clue to that. Just like the numbers on a Volume dial. :thumbsup:
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  14. loveboatcaptain


    Jan 6, 2009
    thanks for the info.
    In terms of the “what’s louder” question…
    Tube watts are different to solid state though aren’t they, which is why I asked if the bassman 500 was louder or could go as loud as the 100w head. For example, the 300w super bassman would blow the 500w solid state bassman away… right? Because it’s tube watts.?
  15. G-Dog

    G-Dog What a fun place! Supporting Member

    No, that's a common myth. Watts are simply an objective measure of power, not tone. Makes no difference to the measurement what technology creates it. The difference comes in how human sensors (not just ears) subjectively perceive the tone produced.

    The first generations of solid state musical amplifiers did sound thinner and more abrasive than tube anps, ... 50 and 60 years ago! That was when people were switching from black & white TV to color. These days TVs are thousands of times brighter, clearer and sharper than those early color TVs. Extremely high definition video is replacing film in all visual media, except for the purists who claim to see the difference.

    It's exactly the same for audio and ... well, most other things, too. Continuous technological advances really do improve machines. But there will always be those who prefer some of the old ways for their own reasons. It's up to you to find your own reasons for either advancement or old ways, in all of life's decisions. Don't just take other people's word for it, no matter how smart they sound. Find out what it means to you.