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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Every1TookMyName, Jul 10, 2001.
Anyone have them? If so, post some pics!
(Sorry about this, but I need some good GAS porn)
I don't need any more GAS than I have now
Nope, never even seen one in real life. But it wouldn't be my choice of customs.
A custom Fender is known as: Ibanez!
Mike has just jumped into his getaway car to avoid the flames! (yuk, yuk)
Mike J: Becareful or Captain Fender will nail you with his incapacitating cables made from old Fender flatwound strings.
At the time of incapacitation, you will then be locked in a room and have to go through two phases of rehabilitation: Phase One: For three days, 24 hours a day, you will have to listen to an Ibanez bass booming in both ears. After you will and mind have been reduced to pulp, comes Phase Two: For three days you will be subjected to the sweet tones of a Fender Custom Shop bass of your choice. This will rebuild your mind, will, and ability to think straight. And you will realize that anything other than a FENDER, is a imitation, a mere wanna-be.
I remember a thread on the FDP which Sammy might also remember, where one guy who posted there was getting a Fender custom shop replica "Jaco" bass and he posted pics.
So they took a replica bass and "relic'd" it - they basically beat it up, so it looked as old as Jaco's beaten up Jazz bass that you see in all the photos of him. Apparently they took all the hardware off - pickguard, pickup covers etc, and packed these separately but with the bass - all in pristine condition! It also had the right type of boat varnish on the de-fretted neck. It cost a huge amount I think, to get it like that!
I love the beat-up look on their relics. But they don't have anywhere near the character of a beat up vintage bass.
Bruce: Yeah! I think I remember that thread. I would make sense I guess to not relic the hardware. That would raise the cost of the bass, and no one knows what Jaco's hardware looked like anyway since he took it off and probably tossed it. The gentleman was quite proud of his new Jaco bass, though. He probably had good reason. I understand the Custom shop models are real nice. But to pay to have someone beat it up for you, NOT this old bass player. I'll do my own beatin' up. NOS would be the way to go if I bought a production Custom Shop bass.
BTW, if you look in the latest Frontline at the Custom Shop Jaco and the Custom Shop '63 Jazz Relic, you will see that the bass bodies have the same marks, chips, etc. It would appear that the Relic job is probably a computer controlled mugging of the bass body. Is this a bad thing? Maybe yes, maybe no. I guess it all depends on your perspective. Since these are "Team Built" Custom Shop models, they are not unique in any way, so I guess that would help to hold the cost down a little.
I have to rush to the defence here. I know for a fact that when you buy a Custom Shop bass, relic or no, you are buying an instrument way above the run of the mill. They use the best woods, and the care and attention paid to things like fretwork is tops. I have a friend who has a relic Tele, and aside from looking beat-up, it is far and away better than any production line Tele. The Custom Shop builds them from scratch, they are.nt just a beat up production model. No, I dont work for Fender, no I dont even own one at present, but I would be proud to own a Jaco relic.
No of course you are right Marty, they do use the best materials but in the end it's still a "replica". I mean Jaco used the Jazz bass because it was cheap when he got it and would take a lot of punishment.
I just think it's funny that you would pay somebody to beat your bass up - as Sammy say - give me the completed replica and then I'll do the beating up!
It' hard for me to think Pastorius choose the Jazz bass because of money. And btw the Jazz bass cheap in 1967??
My father owns custom shop Tele that is the most beautiful g***** I've ever seen... (it was originally built for the g*****ist of Matchbox 20, but he returned it for some reason, so my dad got a hold of it. Pretty sweet deal, eh?)
Now there's a great oxymoron
It can't be custom if it's production!!!
Brianrost: I guess that all depends on your definition of custom. If you talk with the custom shop people, and read about the custom shop on the net site, you will find out that there is basically such a thing as a production Custom shop instrument. All custom shop instruments are produced in limited quantity, some more limited than others. And of course, if you have them build you a custom to your specifications, it is limited to ONE! However, the run-of-the-mill, if you can call them that, custom shop instruments are team built and considered to be Production Custom Shop instruments. Not MASS Production instruments as the American Series, MIMs, etc. But Custom shop production.
Custom does not have to mean a one off item. It can be, but is not necessarily so.