Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Bluebomber, Nov 20, 2001.

  1. Bluebomber


    May 2, 2000
    hey guys...
    im planning on buying a fender american jazz or a stingray... i really like the sound of fenders but hate the feel. doesn't have the freedom that my spector i have now has...after playing about 10 different fenders in the store they all felt bad...

    can i make neck adjustments or something to make it feel faster...more like my spector or a sting ray...its difficult to move around on the neck...slapping is a struggle...takes much more effort to play...

    as far as the stingray i really like the feel and sound is pretty good...but i cant get the fender sound out of my mind...

    so my dilemma is whether to go with what feels the best and sound that i like...or what feels band and the sound thats amazing...

    is the feel of the fender something that i can grow into or is what i get what i get...
  2. It is probably not comfortable simply because you are used to something else. If you bought the jazz you would get used to it eventually. Maybe go to the store and play on it for a couple of hours and see if you still don't like it. Might not be for you.
  3. bertbassplayer

    bertbassplayer Supporting Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Carlsbad, NM
    The feel you will get used to it, unless its just plain painful.
  4. I agree - it's what you get used to playing. I was used to playing guitars with thin necks and ended up getting a Gibson Les Paul for my 50th BD this year. Wow - what a dif! But what's funny is now I just love the sound of it and love the way it plays.
  5. beaglesandbass

    beaglesandbass Think first, then post? Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Philly Suburbs
    i say just get the stingray

  6. hyperlitem

    hyperlitem Guest

    Jul 25, 2001
    Indianapolis, IN
    a stingray neck is disigned more like a pbass. If you like the jazz u might want to try the sterling.
  7. MJB


    Mar 17, 2000
    A bass in a store rarely feels good to me. After I can get it home, put the strings I want on it and set it up the way I want, it feels like a completely different bass. Buy from someone who has a long enough trial period, get the bass the way you want it and play it for awhile. Only then, IMO, will you really know if it's for you or not.
  8. I happen to own a Stingray and an American Standard Jazz. your right about diference in feel. But we're really talking oppisite ends of the spectrum here. I too would love the sounds of the jazz with the feel of the Ray but I'm not sure thats possible. If I had to choose one it would definately be the the Ray , while true its not as versitile tone wise the feel of the Ray neck is damn near perfect for me (its like butta)
  9. monkeyfinger

    monkeyfinger Moderator Staff Member

    If you don't like the feel of the Jazz and don't like the sound of the Music Man, my advice is don't buy either. You should never buy an instrument that you don't feel completely comfortable with.

    If the feel of the Jazz is not to your liking, then have the store technician adjust the bass to fit you before you buy it. If they can't get it to a comfortable point pretty quickly, then don't buy it.

    My feeling about equipment is that it should really float your boat when you purchase it. Any improvements by a better set-up or strings is gravy. If you are looking to upgrade the instrument beyond that, look for another instrument.
  10. lo-end


    Jun 15, 2001
    My advice is this: get whatever sounds better and seems to be constructed better. You'll get used to the feel of a Fender neck after you play one for a couple of hours. I used to go to Guitar Center and play nothing but Stingrays and I swore I would never play another Fender in my life, but then I sat down with one. I started playing, and the neck felt waxy and weird at first, but then I got used to it and it actually started to feel even better than the Stingray neck. I switched back after playing the Fender for a couple hours, and then the Stingray felt weird! The back of the neck felt weird like an unfinished piece of wood that had just been finished with sandpaper! I didnt like it at all!

    So in conclusion... :D It all depends on what you are used to. When you get used to a cheap squier bass, a good bass will feel weird to you. Trust me, Ive been there. Whatever bass you buy, you'll get used to the feel. Just get what sounds better and you wont mind how the neck is finished because that initial weirdness will only last a couple hours. You'll eventually grow to love the new neck. Besides, Jazz Basses have a thinner nut than stingrays, so when you get used to one, you'll probably be able to play faster on it anyway. Thats my advice!
  11. I am not a big fan of the jazz bass neck. too narrow and round.
    on the other hand, I love the P-Bass neck. That's half of the reason I bought my Stingray, the neck just feels like an improved version of the P-Bass neck. it's faster and it feels just a bit higher quality (this is where I should mention that my P is a mexican).

    I don't know if this is an option for you, but I'd try out a couple of Precisions if I were you. It sounds like you might be after a slightly different tone though...
  12. lo-end


    Jun 15, 2001
    yeah I like P basses too. The J neck is too slim for my hands. Either the Precision or the Stingray will be my next bass, but I will eventually have both of them. I love them both.
  13. Bluebomber


    May 2, 2000
    thanks for all of the input...I went back to look at the basses and today was much different. The Fender didn't sound as good as before. i couldnt find the sound that i fell in love with earlier. The musicman was the same, but i began to appreciate the additional thump it had compared to the fender...the guys at the store let me borrow the fender for a few days to see if i would grow into it. so im going to see if i can get the same sound and grow into the feel...

    As far as the precision...i havent really looked at them too much...

    what are the differences between the precision and the jazz?

    So in conclusion...im still not sure what to get...im gonna test out this fender and see if i can get used to it...otherwise its to the musicman...id really appreciate any other thoughts that you guys have concerning my dilemma...thanks...
  14. If it were me,I would have to go with the bass that is most comfortable and easiest to play.I like rays but the neck is too fat for me.:(

    I wonder if I would/could get used to an uncomfortable(to me) bass neck? hmmmm....
  15. the difference in the precision and the jazz basically is in the pickup configuration. the jazz has two single coil pickups whereas the P has a split humbucker with pretty high output (my precision actually has higher output than my Stingray - both have stock pickup configurations). The jazz has a snarly, upper-midrangy sound, whereas the precision has a deep low-midrange sound. the Precisions lows aren't as tight and focused as the jazz's are.

    if I'm wrong on any of the above, someone please correct me.

    if you want thump, a Precision strung with .050 - .105 strings is a strong contender. but an out-of-the-box stingray is an equally strong contender in my book.

    I hope this is of some help to you. don't let my advice, or lack of, dissuade you from purchasing the bass YOU think is right though.
  16. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    I would recommend trying the Fender Roscoe Beck signature - this has great sounds - all the Jazz classic sounds and it has the verstaility with its custom pickups to get similar sounds to MMs.

    But what I liked about it most was the playability - the neck is much better than most of the Jazz basses I tried - Fenders vary a lot and they're bringing out new models this year - I would look around a bit more.
  17. Harpo


    Feb 1, 2001
    Kings Park NY
    You Also might want to look at a G&L L-2000 which
    has the feel of the P-Bass or MM neck and get a few diffrant tones you can't go wrong with any of these