fender jazz questions

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by HalfLife02, Jun 14, 2003.

  1. i have a mim fender jazz and want to upgrade, can someone explain to me the differences between the standard, american, american delux, reissue, artist, and classic? also what are the advantages or disadvantages between active and non active pick ups? thanks guys
     
  2. american refers to whereit was made. 'deluxe' means it is active(meaning the bass itself has a its own power source, most likly a 9-volt or two)standard means no power just a straight bass. take a look at the gear page on fender's website fender.com
     
  3. as far as adavantages or disadvantages of active or non active? that's all a matter of opinion. many people will say that active is better (i am always afraid that the battery will die inthe middle of a song:eek: ) some prefer to beef their sound in other ways. personally i would like the one with both:)
     
  4. Mike Money

    Mike Money In Memoriam

    Mar 18, 2003
    Bakersfield California
    Avatar Speakers Endorsing Hooligan
    Me, like a number of people, would take a MIM Active Deluxe J over an American Deluxe any day.

    But that is just us..
     
  5. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
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    can someone explain to me the differences between the:

    standard: Made in Mexico (MIM)
    american:Made in America (MIA)
    american deluxe: Deluxe Version, MIA
    reissue: Made to same specs of a paricular year MIA, Made in Japan (MIJ) & MIM
    artist: Signature Model made for a Famour player i.e Geddy Lee Jazz, Roscoe Beck 5, etc. MIA, MIJ, MIM
    classic: Made to similar specs to a certian era
    www.fender.com

    also what are the advantages or disadvantages between active and non active pick ups?
    Wrong forum. :)
     
  6. pyrohr

    pyrohr

    Aug 28, 2001
    Pakistani compound
    Hey Mike Money, Do you HAVE a MIA DLX jazz? I do have both, the MIM and the MIA. While the MIM DLX is a great bass it does not compare to the MIA at all. I waited for month's before I bought my MIA DLX because I thought the MIM DLX had those basses covered, how wrong I was. Even with the so called same electronics there was a BIG difference in sound alone. The feel is 100% better, the hardware 100% better the sound is even cleaner (don't ask me how it just is). IMHO the MIM is a afordable Entry level (active Fender) bass that will give you a great active sound.
     
  7. soularis

    soularis Guest

    Jul 3, 2003
    Illinois, USA
    played one of these today, MIM Jazz Delux, what a beautiful sound... the range is of the sound is amazing too. But then I tried MIA Standard Jazz, and you can just see what difference is there in the hardware... money, money...
     
  8. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    Agreed.
    I had a MIM Dlx that imo was the nicest MIM Fender I ever owned, but my 97 MIA Dlx is better feeling and sounding. Plus the MIA has two extra frets(that I dont use often but are nice when you need them).
     
  9. soularis

    soularis Guest

    Jul 3, 2003
    Illinois, USA
    Do the electronics or hardware on MIM Active Deluxe Jazz tend to crap out after a while? Basically, how durable are those basses are? I was very impressed by the sound, to tell you the truth. I haven't played the MIAs but they are so out of my league :rolleyes:
     
  10. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    The MIM is a great value for the money.
    I wish I still had mine. The electronics were decent, and the only thing I changed was the bridge (I replaced the stock one with a Badass 2).
     
  11. soularis

    soularis Guest

    Jul 3, 2003
    Illinois, USA
    Does the BadAss fit right in or there must be some work performed? Thanks man.
     
  12. Darth_Linux

    Darth_Linux

    Oct 12, 2002
    Spokane, WA
    a BadAss II is a direct replacement bridge.

    Generally the hardware on the Mexi Fenders isn't as good as what is on the Americans. The tuners feel gritty, the bridges have plain barrels that are prone to getting burrs and breaking strings. It used to be the bodies were 5 or 6 pieces of poplar, therefore heavier. The pickups were also pretty so so - earlier MIM Jazzes weren't hum canceling when full on because they used the same PUP in the neck and bridge positions (rather than bridge PUP reverse wound from the neck PUP). Newer models have that problem fixed.

    The Americans have some extra work done on the nut and fingerboard, and sometimes include straplocks or a hardshell case. You might also get more control options i.e. active electronics with midrange control or something.

    Reissues are just a certain year of bass made new but with the exact same specifications. For example, the Geddy Lee is more or less a reissue of a 73 Jazz. So it has a one piece maple neck with binding and inlays. The truss rod adjustment is on the body side. The tuners are tall vintage style. The PUPs are 62 re-issues. It's got the TV logo on the headstock. Plus the BA2 bridge installed. The bridge PUP is closer to the bridge than earlier or later model Jazz basses so the tone is somewhat different as well.

    HTH