Fender, no fender, the fender

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Toony, Mar 25, 2003.

  1. Toony


    Jun 15, 2001
    I've about a thousand [USD] to spend on another bass, something abit different from my current list. I'm thinking of getting my first Fender, or else maybe the Warwick Corvette Standard four I've been looking at.

    Anyhow, as for Fenders, I'm looking at the Jazz basses (American Deluxe)....but wondering if you all would recommend one of the others as a better choice. I'm looking "summat" for a Jazz tone, but hoping I can pick a bass that allows me to play other styles and under all techiques (Finger, pick, slap, etc). Also is there a real difference between the American Jazz and the American Deluxe Jazz, or do I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about in the first place? =)

    Also any recommendations for other basses you personally consider "better" in my range, or other advices, would be greatly appreciated.
  2. Brooks


    Apr 4, 2000
    Middle East
    As far as I Know, the only difference between Deluxe and Standard american Jazz is the preamp. Personally, I would buy the American Standard Jazz, and install a J-Retro preamp. That would give you all the flexibility and versatility that you need.
  3. I think the "deluxe" models have active electronics. If you have that much money and you want an excellent active Fender Jazz, here's what you do. Go on eBay and look for a nice MIJ jazz (like the Geddy Lee Sig:D) and then go to BassNW or the Dude Pit or something and get a J Retro preamp. Install it in your new bass and you will have a smokin jazz!

    BTW - This is what I did so I am a bit biased(especially toward the GL), but I wouldnt reccomend it so much if it didnt kick so much ass.
  4. Ah, beat me to it(kind of). The only reason I suggest getting a Japanese jazz over the American one is that a MIJ costs quite a bit less and is of almost equal quality.
  5. I would also recommend the Geddy Lee. The other significant difference between the American Jazz and the American Deluxe is the body shape. The Deluxe has a smaller body. You really can't go wrong with the Geddy Lee-versatile,great tone,and a huge 'cool factor'. Good Luck
  6. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    The American Deluxe basses are very nice. You see them on eBay alot & you could get a good deal on one. Personally, I like the downsized body. It feels more comfortable to me. The newer MIA Deluxes have NoiseLess pickups, which to me, are ToneLess. If you can find one that has the older pickups (one large pole per string) I'd recomend that over the newer ones.

    This is the one I recomend:
    <img src="http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_c2e21fb59946025e16cf5696858810bf/i-4.JPG">
    <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518585892&category=38079">CLICK HERE</a> to see the eBay Auction.

    Also, the Mexican Made Deluxes have these pickups & preamp & cost ALOT less & have the full sized Jazz bass body.
    <img src="http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_e5452be0be8bca26c54bf9a73b0fe4ed/i-2.JPG">
    <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518277248&category=38079">CLICK HERE</a> to see the eBay Auction.

    Good luck in your quest.

    The Geddy Lee recomendation is a very good one, also. I have one & I use it with my Sadowsky outboard pre-amp & it smokes. Latley, I have been using this bass more than my 2 Sadowsky 4 string basses. Mainly becauce I don't mind as much if it get's beat up (played look). :)
  7. Toony


    Jun 15, 2001
    I'll look into the MIJ, the J-Retro, and all other advices mentioned. Hopefully I'll get to play around with them later tomorrow or so.

    Not too sure on how hard it is to install a pre-amp, but I'm sure I'll figure it out or get someone else more "qualified" to do so.

    Thanks, all. Also, thanks Nino for the illustrative advices, the images, and the link. I just may jump into that auction once I've actually played one.

    Again, thanks everyone for your input. =)
  8. BoiNtC


    Nov 25, 2002
    NYC, USA
    I recently heard a friend's Marcus Miller Jazz bass which is MIJ but it has an active preamp built into it although I've read that people popped in U-Retros into those and it sounded better, I was EXTREMELY impressed with the sound on the Miller so impressed that I'm hopinf he'll buy the new 5 string version coming out later this year so I can buy the 4 offa him ;)
  9. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    IMO the best sounding Jazz bass out there is the passive Standard Jazz with original single coil Fender Alnico Vintage style pickups. My 97 American Standard sounds unbelievable all the time no matter if it's plugged into an amp or straight into a board. It's always perfect.

    Give the passive Jazz a try and don't be shy with the EQ on the front of your amp.
  10. kroth


    Apr 6, 2003
    check out the roscoe beck signature jazz five for a mighty big variety of tones. real cool bass, very underrated. or the marcus miller signature or any of the reissue series if you are more retro