I'm thinking of changing the pickups in my Fender Am Dlx J V. Has anyone compaired these pickups? I'm looking to tame my Maple board a little and fatten the tone a bit too. I don't want to loose the punch. Any opinions on the SCN's vs the NJ5FS five string pickups?
I have the NJ5FS in my Marcus Miller 5, no punch lost at all from the addition of the NJ5SF. Sorry I cant speak to the scn issue though.
I haven't tried anything yet. I know the SCN's are good pickups as are the Nordstrands. I'm just trying to get an idea of the differences in basic tone between the two. Also..... which is the hot dog?
I had Nordstrands in my J Deluxe V for awhile. IME, the Nordstrands were actually noiser, but I think that's because they add more highs. I found myself rolling back the treble more than with the SCN's. Even thought the Nords are more even-sounding, I ended up re-installing the SCN's because I preferred the tone.
Interesting... I think the SCN's have a pretty extended high end now. I'm after a fatter more even sound, while still being able to keep all the punch.
have you thought about a preamp change? a more neutral sounding pre than whats in there might work better with the naturally extended highs of that type of humcancelling jazz pickup.
A while back I experimented and installed a bypass switch for the preamp. In the flat position, the preamp sounded very similar to the bypassed sound. I tend to tweak the preamp very little on the gig, and almost never in the studio. Mainly for room adjustments or speaker issues. I didn't know the stock Fender pre is not neutral sounding. Which pre are you thinking of?
well, almost all pres ive used to me sound like the highs open up to some extent compared to the bass wired up passive due to whatever the science is with the loading of passive pickups. i had a set of dimarzio ultrajazzes and samarium cobalt noiseless with a jretro and a bart and didnt really care for how they reacted. passive though was fine. ive stopped using humcancelling pickups, but the singles i prefer (pickups in my 62 and 78 jazz and custom antquity 2's) are not as hot as most aftermarket sets and have a similar extended/airy top end that a humcancelling set has. those pickups matched with jimmy coppolos pre is fantastic. the pre set flat doesnt sound too hyped and i really like where the frequencies are set. the bass is a little higher than a typical pre and fattens thing up nicely without boom and the highs are voiced a little lower. this sounds really good with airier pickups and sounds terrible with really grindy/hotter single coils imo. i would imagine it would work very nicely with a humcancelling pickup as it would provide some balance to an already modern sounding pickup.
My Tyler 5 has a Demeter pre in it. Like your Copolos bass, the Demeter lows are a tad higher and the highs a touch lower. The bass sounds wonderful. It has Barts that were wound specifically for Tyler. Something about quads, eh I don't know. So you think the preamp is the answer... which one?
dont have a coppolo bass but i use his outboard pre. i cant recommend it enough. depending on where you are in la, hes a not that far of a drive away in upland. it might be worth a drive to go check out.
You might try Seymour Duncan 1/4lb'ers (keep in mind that I'm endorser, so take my advice for what it's worth). I have a Lakland JO5. I didn't care for the stock pickups that much and put Barts in there. I liked them OK for slap, but fingerstyle didn't have the punch I wanted or the dynamics, all the notes kind of came out the same. A month ago I put in the 1/4 lb 5 string pickups and it took some of the edge off the highs and beefed up the low mids nicely. I can also get a better range of tones from adjusting my touch. HTH Edwin
I thought Copolo was based out of New York!! I can get to Upland. Actually, Demeter makes an outboard preamp too. Not cheap, but good. I'm not sure a preamp will make all that big a difference, especially if I don't use it all that much. It seems like a pickup change might make more of a difference. maybe I'm not a big fan of the 1/4 pounders. Too huge a sound. Not what I'm after. But thanks for the idea.
I have the SCNs in in my ADJV too--I found raising them added significant fullness. I suggest playing with the pickup height before changin them-- I read somewhere that they have weaker magnets than most pups.
I agree. I've been able to raise these pickups higher than most others. I guess I'm trying to de-emphasize the Maple board sound. I have a killer bass, just wish it had a Rosewood board.
Ahh, while I like the maple board sound, one trick I tried was lowering the treble side on both pickups a bit. That took some of the edge off; here are my current measurements, if it helps: bass treb neck 4/64 5/64 bridge 5/64 5/64
One more thing--IMHO, try nickel or nickel plated strings on maple and steel on rosewood. I find that the differences in tone are negligable after that I tried DR Lo-Riders on my ADJV (maple board), and couldn't stand them, but then I tried DR Nickel Lo-Riders and I love them. YMMV
Interesting. I have an ADJV w/rosewood board. I really don't have any complaints about the preamp, but have considered a change. Well, for no other reason than I can't leave well enough alone. The Nordstrand pre looks interesting to me. Check it out http://www.bestbassgear.com/nordstrand-bass-preamps.htm#nordstrandpreampspecs I like the frequencies espeically the bass: - Treble: +/- 12 [email protected] - Mid: +/-12 [email protected] (mid freq selector toggles between 1kHz and 400Hz) - Bass: +/- 12 [email protected] I also like the the mid selector and the passive tone control. Hmmm....