Fender squire and TMB30

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Steve Strang, Jun 22, 2020.

  1. Steve Strang

    Steve Strang

    Jun 11, 2020
    Hi
    More help/ advice please. So as per my previous post I’ve decided not to buy mid 80’s Ibanez mainly as it’s online and I can try it out. Local music shop has black TMB30 and black fender squire affinity both are same price. I know they are two completely different Basses short scale vs long scale. Any help making a decision, pro’s and cons etc. much appreciated
     
  2. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    Squire affinity P bass or Jazz?
     
  3. Steve Strang

    Steve Strang

    Jun 11, 2020
    PJ
     
  4. Steve Strang

    Steve Strang

    Jun 11, 2020
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  5. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    The Squier is going to have the jazz style neck, ie. not as wide as the TMB30. It all comes down to a matter of preference in terms of scale size. Tension and feel is also going to differ, as such the tone is going to be affected.
    Good choice imo on the pickup configuration. PJ basses are my favorite and very versatile, both are good options and well regarded basses for the price.
     
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  6. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    because i love a slim neck, i'd go for the squier. do you have a neck preference?

    is there a reason you're looking at both a 30" and a 34" scale bass?
     
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  7. Yahboy

    Yahboy

    May 21, 2008
    Yamaha BB234 smoke both Affy PJ and ibby TMB.
     
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  8. Lackey

    Lackey

    May 10, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Hehe yeah I'd look for a Yamaha BB as well.
     
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  9. Steve Strang

    Steve Strang

    Jun 11, 2020
    No really came down to what’s immediately available in music shop and my $500 Aussie $$. I do like style of both. I’m not a real experienced player. I’ve also got smallish hands but I’ve always played long scale before. I’m going to try out a squire at another music shop.
     
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  10. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    squiers have many models, so be sure it's the same model.

    if you're good with long scale, i'd go for the squier. let us know how it goes.
     
  11. Steve Strang

    Steve Strang

    Jun 11, 2020
    Will do
     
  12. MakoMan

    MakoMan

    Oct 17, 2011
    Ottawa, Canada
    The TMB30 is a fantastic bass and you don't see that many of them out there. Meanwhile... everyone has an Affinity and you can find them used anytime you want - they never change in used value; which is about half of what they sell for new. I could find a nice condition used Affinity PJ for $150 Canadian 10 years ago and could easily find one for the same price today.
    A number of inexpensive short scale basses on the other hand are worth more used than they originally cost new. Once they get discontinued they seem to go up in value - Vista MusicMasters, Gretsch G2202 and most recently the Squier Jag SS are just a few examples. As used basses, both my Gretsch and Jag are worth double what I paid for them new in 2012. I'm guessing my TMB30 in 8-10 years will be the same.
     
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  13. bpc

    bpc

    Mar 29, 2016
    Central Scotland
    @MakoMan What you say about used prices going up is already true of the lefty Talmans.
     
  14. MakoMan

    MakoMan

    Oct 17, 2011
    Ottawa, Canada
    Not surprised. They are really under-rated basses and probably won't be truly appreciated until after Ibanez discontinues them :D
    My TMB30 actually feels and plays a lot like my Squier Vista MusicMaster. It's got the same chunky P-style short-scale neck and balance is almost identical.
     
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  15. CallMeAl

    CallMeAl

    Dec 2, 2016
    Ithaca Ny
    I would pick the Squier, because personally I prefer the neck profile and long scale. (Looks like the nut is <mm difference, practically the same. I don’t have measurements on difference in thickness, but the TMB necks feel thicker to me.)

    I’d have to give the quality control points to Ibanez though. They put out great basses at this price point. I can fix a majority of the “errors” Myself on a squier, which can be hit or miss; but not everyone can/wants to do that. Nice NBD/review thread here, with lots of discussion
    NBD! Ibanez Talman TMB30 30"short scale bass!

    It’s nice you can try the Squier (but not the Ibanez?) and have a little playing experience. Even trying one will give you a frame of reference, and your hands will tell you more about the two basses than 100 pages of internet discussion.

    good luck!
     
  16. Forget the Affinity, get the Squier Vintage Modified P-bass, with maple neck, black block inlay
    and binding. Black finish, Hi Mass bridge, throw a quarter pounder in it....Bam!
    You’re Mr. Cool.
     
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  17. I had both a tmb30 and a Squier Jag ss. Both were PJ and sounded very similar, but I preferred the Squier neck. Then I got a Mustang and love it, so I sold the Talman and the Jag.

    Of your two choices I think I would go with the Squier, unless you really want a short scale.

    Also, the tmb100 is less than $200, and they are very good for the money. But the neck profile is the same as the tmb30, but proportionally larger.
     
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  18. Gabe Langfur

    Gabe Langfur

    Sep 22, 2019
    Boston
  19. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    I stand corrected, thanks for clarifying. Nut width of the Squier Affinity PJ is wider than the Jazz, but not as wide as the Squier CV P bass (42.8 mm), it's in between.
    The Talman has a neck that doesn't taper as much and is chunkier back to front, so it feels like a baseball bat, much like the full scale brethren, the TMB100 and above. It's not necessarily a bad thing, all a matter of preference.
     
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  20. Here.... let me help you out.

    The Squier.

    There ya go.....:thumbsup:
     
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