Fender Ultra Precision bass

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by mickebas, Jul 1, 2020.

  1. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    Opinions, experiences, pros & cons compared to the more traditional Fender line.
    I’ve always been a vintage Fender person with mostly old P- and J-basses in my arsenal.
    Now I decided on taking a, for me, big leap into the unknown and ordered a Fender Ultra precision’ mocha burst/rosewood fb.
    I did this pretty spontaneously and only with gut feeling and the fact that it looked good on paper (online).

    So, will I regret having done this?
    Input from players that have already done this or in any other way have more experience of this line of basses is very much appreciated.
     
  2. Warpeg

    Warpeg

    Jun 20, 2005
    Ohio
    I've played a few. Nice basses. Not my cup of tea, but certainly a good quality instrument.
     
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  3. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    I like Fender instruments a lot. I have Ps fretted and fretless, J and Strat and an acoustic guitar that looks like I hate it but that's because I love it.
    I am partial to the Precision neck profile, all my favorite basses have that general shape.
    If I was going to buy a new Fender today before I even tuned it up I'd replace the bridge and I might mess with the electronics a little. Those are the only 2 areas that Fender hasn't been real concerned with in 65 years or so.

    So if you're asking my own dumb opinion, the Ultra series takes the bridge (Foreman: "Hey, Leo, some drunk employee screwed the lid from your snuff can on to a bass." Leo: "Keep it. I'm heading to Music Man anyway.") and upgrades it with a properly functioning music grade bridge. Then they give you the switchable option of passive and active electronics. It's a win. It's all the stuff you love about Fender Ps, made in the USA, high QC, with the mandatory bridge upgrade taken care of so you can play your bass sooner. It's a no-brainer.
     
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  4. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    My biggest doubt is regarding the pickups since I really didn’t like anything about the old noiseless series, I actually thought they where really bad. But from what I’ve heard they have improved them generation for generation and I’m hoping that they know are at a point where they in the passive mode sound like the 63’s on the AO 60s P with the opportunity to go PJ and active if I’d need to. But most important is that the physics of the instrument feels good. I can always change pickups and play passive then, but I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised by the new pups and the preamp.
     
  5. The old American Deluxe pickups were generally noted as being a bit weak and plenty of people didn't like them, including the guitar pickups. TBH my American Deluxe Jazz has an original neck and a seymour duncan quarter pounder at the bridge. Between the two, I don't have any issues getting sounds that I like, so I couldn't say the noiseless ones were bad. I'm also just happy to be playing bass, in all honesty, I'm not all that picky past having a decent setup.

    At any rate though, as far as I know they've been redesigned since.
     
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  6. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    I may have been a bit quick in my judgement regarding the noiseless pickups first generations but I compared them to my old 61 Jazzbass’s original pickups which were fantastic. The noiseless then sounded cold, hard and with a high end that was far from organic but this was quite a long time ago and I’ve been scared of these pickups since then. Maybe it’s about time I give them another chance and from what I’ve heard they’re probably much better in all respects now. I sure hope so. If not, pickups can always be replaced pretty easily.
     
  7. I wouldn't say you're wrong either, two people can listen to the same pickups and have completely different opinions. I plugged a no-name strat at a pawnshop into my epi. valve jr, and didn't like it because I had a hard time making the amp distort, and the pickups overall felt lifeless - I just hated them. When it comes to my american deluxe jazz though, I don't mind either of the pickups. Maybe I'd hate them if the bass only had the stock ones, but having the added versatility of two completely different pickups makes it okay? As you can see, I'm not about overthinking my gear anymore, I either like it or I don't, and I tend to like it.
     
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  8. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    The necks on these beauties are really comfortable to me. Every person has different preference for necks, obviously. I think they feel great.
    More important, what color?
     
  9. TrevorG

    TrevorG Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2012
    U.K.
    Glad more people are beating me to it. Great bass. I've had Alembics and Spectors and I prefer this for sounds and playability.
    Only real complaint is the battery life... three month a set!
     
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  10. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    Mocha burst. Actually the way they look and the quality that the physical design seem to have was the biggest factor when deciding to buy one. Regarding the pickups I ended up thinking, it’s a Fender, it can’t be that bad. I’m used to changing pups on my instruments until I’m satisfied anyway. Hopefully I won’t need to but it’s not the deciding factor...
     
  11. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    Good to hear!
    I will never feel safe about built in preamps myself although some basses like Sadowskys has musical and reliable ones. I’ve had Sadowsky basses but I still usually end up using passive mode. Chances are big I’ll only use the preamp on rare occasions and recordings but not in everyday use.
     
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  12. TrevorG

    TrevorG Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2012
    U.K.
    I've always been the other way round. Love my active circuits. But the passive is so nice on the Ultra I use it more than on any other bass. The active circuit with all Eq at 0 seems just a louder version of the passive with all the tone up. From there it can locate a large range of tones that all sound very Fender. Looking forward to seeing what you think.
     
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  13. MAFbass1992

    MAFbass1992 Bass Player / Low-End Reviews

    Feb 4, 2012
    Montreal
    Low-End Reviews - Bass Reviews
    The neck on the Precision is very nice! It's a slim D neck and the finish is very smooth! If I ever do a modded p bass that's the neck that i'd install.

    About the noiseless pickups. I didn't care about the elite pickups.

    The bridge pickup on the ultra sounds good, very present. The P pickup sounded good but was very low output. I'm curious to know if all the ultras P are like this... It might be a faulty pickup. Can anyone confirm?
     
  14. captainofsmooth

    captainofsmooth Weight? Supporting Member

    Oct 6, 2009
    Georgia
    The neck profile and compound-radius board isn’t for everyone. If you’re a classic P guy, that may be the case for you. However, I found it to be very comfortable and playable. Only having it in your hands will tell. Other than that, these are great basses. I’ve played one extensively at the local GC, as I’m in the process of deciding on a new P to buy. The Ultra is a top contender.
     
  15. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    Although I clearly usually prefer the vintage 7,25’ radius because that’s what I was brought up on, I have found, just as you say, that it’s not until I have the specific bass/neck in my hands that I really know. I have also encountered some old vintage necks that to me feels like they have different curvature even though they all are supposed to be 7,25. So I guess it’s a mix of the radius, the neck profile and the fretwork.
    I’m looking forward to getting some new inspiration in this area and it sure sounds like Fender really have tried to do what they think is a great solution. The vintage radius preferability I’m sure is very much something that comes from habit. We’ll see :)
     
  16. S.F.Sorrow

    S.F.Sorrow

    Dec 6, 2014
    I took a chance on a Mocha too because I loved the finish so much. I don't know why I did it to be honest because I've had some poor luck with MIA Fenders lately and have never really loved active Fenders.

    But this one... I absolutely LOVE it. The neck feels GREAT (if a little "unfamiliar" at first for a P-bass). The new neck heel feels great too. I didn't expect this to matter much to me. I mean, I've got plenty of other non-Fender basses with sculpted neck heels and I've never missed it on my Fenders. But it just felt so nice to be able to go all the way up there with no restraints on a P-bass.

    The sound is amazing. I actually like it best in passive mode. Unlike the AmPro it sounds exactly as I would expect from a good P-bass.

    I like it in active mode too but with the tone controls centered it's voiced just a hint too bright for my taste. Nothing a slight treble cut won't fix though. Unlike many other active basses the tone controls feel just right to me. Very musical sounding and hits exactly the right spots frequency wise.

    Excellent hardware. String retainer for the A-string! None of those silly fluted tuners on the AmPros. Everything is just perfect.

    Even the setup was pretty good, which is hardly the case with most Fenders.

    Someone mentioned in another thread that it EATS batteries. I put Duracells into mine upon arrival and they've got quite a few hours on them now so it doesn't seem to be a HUGE problem. I put one of the "stock" batteries into a Boss tuner where it didn't even make it through one rehearsal so maybe eating batteries was simply down to this, I dunno?

    Fit and finish couldn't have been better.

    Everything about this bass is top quality. It's one of VERY few Fenders I've owned that I truly think compares to stuff like Sandberg, MIJ Yamaha, etc.

    The only thing I didn't like was how it smelled when new. A kinda sharp chemical smell... I would have preferred that lovely vanilla of Custom Shop/Original/Vintage series.
     
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  17. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    Thanks for the input! Just what I want to hear right now. What you’re describing is what I’m hoping for and what I in some strange way felt it was time for in my vintage-biased basslife.

    What! Not the standard ‘banana-strawberry smell’? That’s an issue to ask Fender customer support about. I hope it was just your bass that was miss-smelled’ I recently bpugh an American original 60s P and spent most of the first couple of days with my nose in the case. But then that’s more of a vintage case.
     
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  18. S.F.Sorrow

    S.F.Sorrow

    Dec 6, 2014
    Yeah, it's only the ones in the vintage cases that have the nice smell. I'm actually not sure it the smell is from the case or the bass. I think it's the case. It wears off pretty soon on the basses.

    My Ultra smelled pretty nasty. If it wasn't sealed and factory fresh I would have suspected a cat... :roflmao: But apart from that the bass is absolutely amazing. I'm sure you will love it. And the smell wears off after a couple of weeks. Or maybe they keep cats at the Corona factory and mine was an accident...o_O
     
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  19. TrevorG

    TrevorG Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2012
    U.K.
    Got to say I think mine are well balanced. Did PU hight adjustment not work?
     
  20. mickebas

    mickebas

    Sep 7, 2008
    Is the Mocha burst body alder or ash?
    I guess it should be ash since the color is transparent but I’ve seen different specs depending on where I look.