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FIRED from band without Warning!

Discussion in 'Bass Humor & Gig Stories [BG]' started by CLMSHQ, Apr 12, 2019.


  1. CLMSHQ

    CLMSHQ

    Apr 17, 2007
    Danielson, CT
    I will keep this as short as possible.

    Six years ago I was given the opportunity to start a 'dream band' with a bunch of guys as the core of the group and horns to follow. We were doing lots of Chicago, Tower Of Power, Beatles, EWF, Motown, ect. I was the youngest. the rest of the members were in their 50's.
    So when we got about 10 songs ready, we all met for the first time at rehearsal and hit it off as the core members. Male-Singer/Keys(Leader of the band), Drummer, Guitar, and myself on Bass. Then we got a Female Singer, Sax, Trumpet, and Bone...these horn guys played with the Leader of the Band before. So at this point it was an 8 Piece.
    We proved ourselves in clubs and in the CT Casino known as Foxwoods. Things were paved for us, and we had it going on..The Keys/Leader has an Irish temper and eventually due to this we lost horn members and the Female singer, very uncomfortably and made some of us uneasy as he did it in a jerk way. He found back-ups for the horns, and I found a great Female Singer( I knew her from before) who bloomed the band as she has a powerful soul voice and helped taken it even higher. I was in charge of the FB Page, he did the outdated website(looked like myspace). He booked us in the casino 10-12x a year(He works in the Entertainment Booking Dept. there), and I did the remaining 90% of gigs for the most part and promoted. We were playing in front of 50 to near 700 plus, in gigs that I said, "Someday I will do this event."

    So as more horns left, the Bone player who was now in charge of charts and getting horn fill-ins and I would get new horn players, as I was in another oldies band and met many horn players to assist as did he.

    We had an even better 10 member band and were doing great as far as gigs, fan base, bigger venues and opportunities. Note: Still the same CORE members from the first day.
    Our Singer left due to her family and job obligations, but she found a great Female addition..good at music and singing, but not as powerful..but still excellent.

    Here is where it happens: Our drummer had to get knee surgery this past Sept. I had drummers that were good enough to fill in for a few months, but the leader wanted to find someone and he did...Good drummer but stuck on himself, flashy and no dynamics for this music. It was hard to play with him and he was not professional to manners and what we stood for. I could not wait for our drummer to come back....which is what the leader kept saying to him..no worries heal, and get back. The spot is and will always be yours.
    Even the Female singer who would fill in for us that I got did a couple of gigs to help. She said, How do you guys play with him..he is cocky and makes the time changes of the songs too fast...enough said.
    So we did a huge NYE gig at the Casino and it was going to be the fill in drummers last gig, and a way to say Thank-you for filling in..then it was back with the original core as the drummer and I would keep in touch...not true.
    The leader ended up calling the drummer and saying we are going to stick with the fill in...He was shocked and I had no idea. The drummer called me, having no clue and was upset, as he was set to ocome to rehearsal in 4 days...So I msg the leader and said, can we talk about this, just so I know the reason and why would we strung him along to mend from his surgery just to let him go..he said sure, after the weekend...so I called him and he said, "Yah, I just thought we should move on with this back-up drummer...and well I am getting a new Bass Player too."........WHAT!?!?

    So for 6 years and no warning, as he gave other members talks if they missed a rehearsal or had health issues, or schedule conflicts...but no warning. He is a snake.

    It stung. To be away from this release and routine of having your dream band, to just have it pulled from you without warning. It was not because I wasn't doing my share as I did a lot for the business, but because I did not really agree with the leaders idea of the drummer. To me we were family, and partly due to the good drummer we had, that made this happen.

    Some of the members still reach out to me and want to do projects with them, and I would love to see them play out...but it is like seeing your x girlfriend make out with her new boy friend...LOL

    So, it depressed me..but I have dusted off and back at it looking for the next great thing.
     
  2. Sounds like you've shed enough people that you could contact them and put the band back together minus the Keys/BL, (and maybe the Bone).
     
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  3. Bodeanly

    Bodeanly Supporting Member

    Mar 20, 2015
    Chicago
    Yep. I'd snatch up the old drummer and start fresh. I'd tell you to screen for egos, but they are slippery suckers.
     
  4. Kitsapbass

    Kitsapbass What key is this?

    May 26, 2005
    Bremerton, WA
    Dang. That's screwed up Bud.
     
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  5. CLMSHQ

    CLMSHQ

    Apr 17, 2007
    Danielson, CT
    The drummer and I have been in contact for sure, we even went out to see a band with the wives and catch up last month.

    I don't want to steal members as it is a really tight ass band and they are good. Proud of what I contributed too.

    Karma will come around. Stuff is getting old with some of the members that have been at it for 4 plus years with them.

    Each former member I run into, tell me differently how they were let go as well...It can be an ugly business.
     
  6. CLMSHQ

    CLMSHQ

    Apr 17, 2007
    Danielson, CT
    It was a kick in the cubes.

    When I went to see him to pick up my equipment at his place, I put my hand up and said I really do not want to hear your song and dance and excuses. You are a dishonest person and didn't even have a conversation with me as to why ahead of time..I am just here to pick up my stuff. I want to thank you for the opportunity, as we had a great time, but you will be the demise of this band and friendships.
     
  7. LBS-bass

    LBS-bass Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2017
    California
    This completely sucks for you and the old drummer, but from what you described as a revolving door of horn players, etc., it sounds like this guy was clearly hard to work for. Personally I'd never put my reputation on the line by inviting replacement players to join a situation like this.

    Six years is a long time but I think your best bet would be as others have mentioned; get together with the old drummer and maybe some of those other players who have been burned by this snake and put together something even better. You have connections for booking, so there's no reason you can't have something good up and running fairly quickly. Wishing you the best!
     
  8. LBS-bass

    LBS-bass Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2017
    California
    You probably won't have to. If they're unhappy, they'll find you.
     
  9. Kitsapbass

    Kitsapbass What key is this?

    May 26, 2005
    Bremerton, WA
    Band I was in kind of dissolved last year, then reformed with the BL and vocalist from an iteration ago. They wanted me, and I tried, but it wasn't me - so I moved on. They've got a gig IIRC next week, which I'll go to, simply because it wasn't near as bad as this...but I was in that band for like 7+ years. I get the feeling.
     
  10. Robus

    Robus

    Aug 25, 2013
    Chicago Area
    You and the old drummer have a rhythm section. Start up a new band.
     
  11. Man that is just not right!
    J@ckassery afoot for sure. Take that good and newly healed drummer and put yourself together a super group!
     
  12. gorneyg

    gorneyg Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2012
    New Jersey
    Steal members. Screw him.
     
  13. PauFerro

    PauFerro

    Jun 8, 2008
    United States
    Time will heal the wounds. It will pass eventually. My concern in your situation is all the gigs you booked and repeat business the old band will get based on your past business efforts. I would consider (I said, consider) a way of keeping those contacts.

    The other thought I had was this cocky drummer -- is he the kind that would sabotage you and the old drummer to keep his spot? There are many ways they can do it. It makes me wonder as it sounds like you are a strong contributor and have business and leadership ability. SOMETHING changed the BL's mind after all the promises he made. I think it might have been the drummer, who, by the way, may have seen you as a threat and therefore neutralized that threat by recommending a different bass player.

    If I were you, I'd take what you learned, and consider the contact that you developed your own. I would form another band fast, and get out there gigging. Depending on your income situation, I would invest in this to get it going fast.

    You have a number of things in hand now

    a) contacts you booked
    b) you know the songs really well and can get the band up to speed
    c) You know what it takes to put on a good show and get a band going.

    It reminds me of the railroad way back when it was the primary way of shipping goods across the nation. there was a monopoly on the railroad and the owner wouldn't let a weathy millionaire use it. So the wealthy millionaire started his OWN railroad, becoming a formidable competitor.

    Without starting a war, figure out how to take what you learned, get the old drummer back in the saddle, and get out there gigging again with all that talent you have.

    I had a similar situation years ago. Not the same fabric, but a really crappy situation that led to me leaving a group. The best thing you can do to overcome the depression is to go out and make a band that is successful and fulfilling. that led to me having NO REGRETS about leaving that sorry excuse for a band I tried to be part of years ago. Nothing succeeds like success!
     
  14. BOOG

    BOOG Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 2016
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Similar thing happened to a friend of mine who is a drummer. As a founding member of sixteen years with his band they pushed him out for another while he mended from a hand injury.
    Mean people suck.
     
  15. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    i'm sorry this happened to you, but i suspect you're better off not dealing with all of that, although six years is a long time to have end like that.

    are any of the other band members who left previously available?
     
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  16. EatS1stBassist

    EatS1stBassist

    Apr 15, 2016
    So cal
    Sorry that happened to :cool::rollno:
     
  17. My time in bands is long past but in my day, a drummer and bass player team could build any kind of band they wanted.

    Good Luck,

    Mugre
     
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  18. CLMSHQ

    CLMSHQ

    Apr 17, 2007
    Danielson, CT
    Two of the trumpet players informed me that they would love to play with me again and keep them informed once I have a project.

    Horn players are different as most play in more than one band..Especially the good ones that can site read and solo off any key. These guys are talented.
     
  19. Thumpin6string

    Thumpin6string Supporting Member

    Apr 25, 2013
    Redding CA
    If other members feel the same way about this guy as you and the drummer, I'd "steal" them and restart the band with a new keyboardist. Then see how his band does with no members or lousy replacements.:thumbsup:
     
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  20. Yeah that's pretty shady... anyone deserves at least a conversation. I get what you mean how your band mates seem like family, I certainly feel that way about mine (even though we'd probably never hang outside of music). Been together for 4 years. Band relationships are even harder than love relationships haha
     
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