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firing our rythem guitarist to replace him with a new one

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by clanner, Nov 24, 2005.


  1. clanner

    clanner Token Black Guy.

    Apr 27, 2005
    ummmmm, marietta GA
    our current rythem guitarist is about to be fired from the band, I don't know how to go about this, would it be easier for me, his best friend or our lead singer/lead guitarst to fire him? he isn't as talented as the rest of us on our instruments and needs to learn alot more before he's up to our level. at the same time, we recent;y found an incredible guitarist to replace him that is more experianced. were only teenagers (me being 17 and the oldest) and we don't really know how to go about this, our lead guitarst and drummer go to the same school, and i go to the same school as our current rythym. were going to finish out the next 2 gigs with him, should we break the news before or after the gigs?


    p.s. he doesn't show up for practice and plays in one of our original songs, and bass in one of the covers (he already knew the song and I didn't really like the song to begin with)

    i just don't want to hurt his feelings or piss him off.
     
  2. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    "Bud, you know I love you like a brother, but your guitar playing is too sucky for this band. Soooaahhhh, wanna be a roadie?"
     
  3. Say "We don't really need a rhythm guitarist," and then wait 'till he joins another band. Then you can hire a new rhythm guitarist without hurting his feelings.
     
  4. clanner

    clanner Token Black Guy.

    Apr 27, 2005
    ummmmm, marietta GA
    funny thing was he was a roadie for a while.

    we are going to tell him, it's just when? this bands been through some crap recently, one of our "friends" stole a large some of our guitarists personall money (he was saving up for a new guitar) and spent it in the coarse of a day, then about 2 weeks later gets arrested and ends up getting our guitarist and drummer involved in it, he stole a bass speaker and PA from someones car on the school lot and stashed it in our drummers car, whom he assumed would give him a ride home, someone saw it in the car and they called our drummer and guitarist (usually rides home with the drummer to practice) he gets called to the office aswell. yesterday we found out that because this was his second offense he'll be in prison six months to a year, he doesn't listen to anyone, we're having band practice and tell him he can't come over, yet he still does after our guitarists father leaves. before this whole stint he sets fire-cracker under someones car runs and manages to get us mixed up in it, he goes home, then we get a call saying he'll be back. we basically run out of the neighborhood and weight for our manager to get home.

    sorry for the rant. that was eating at me, and I hate to say it, but i'm glad that he's in prison.

    my freind isn't a bad player but he isn't up to our level and doesn't want to write his own parts, while the person that will eentually replace him, can improvise almost aswell as me (i'm okay for my experiance level)

    the mand melds together when the new guys there, and he has a more controlled sound and technique.
     
  5. Your only 17 (not in bad or good way, more neutral ;) ). I think age speaks for itself. That's all I got to say!
     
  6. rllefebv

    rllefebv

    Oct 17, 2000
    Newberg, Oregon
    I disagree... You're 17, so you should be able to handle this like an adult. By far the best way to do this type of thing is straight up, factual, and to his face. Have the whole band there if possible. Be prepared for him to rant and rave, but conduct yourself as calmly as possible. Do not handle this in an e-mail or IM. (Can't stress that enough)...

    If he's truly your friend, then he deserves nothing less than honesty.

    -robert
     
  7. clanner

    clanner Token Black Guy.

    Apr 27, 2005
    ummmmm, marietta GA
    no way i'd do it throug e-mail, IM, or phone. that would just be wrong. we were planning to tell him as a group, but it will still be difficult. i've read alot of things can happen.

    my main worry is the fact that he used to cut, (3 or 4 years ago), I don't want to start a relapse or something of that nature.
     
  8. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Yes, the old "we're not firing you, we're just eliminating your position" chestnut. Widely used in industry, and legal, until you hire someone to fill the "eliminated" position a week later. I prefer just to fire them and send them on their merry way.
     
  9. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    They have chat rooms for cutters in AOL (which, by the way, are mondo bizarro to a non-cutter). Maybe he could go there. While your concern and compassion are admirable, you should not let yourself be held hostage by someone else's psychosis.
     
  10. Don't do it as a group. It would be embarrasing for him, for everyone to stand there and say that he isn't good enough. If you don't like my idea (I wouldn't either) then at least do it yourself. You're friends, I know I'd rather you tell me than the group.
     
  11. Get the singer to do it, it will give him his power-trip fix that all singers need once and a while :p