First Gig, what gear should I take?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Rocks, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Rocks


    Mar 9, 2009
    Willoughby, Ohio
    Hi Everyone, like the title says I've got my first gig coming up with my new band. The band is a power trio. The drummer plays on an old set of clear blue ludwigs and he does hit hard. The guitarist has a fender tube amp with 2x12's, I forget which model but its about 50 watts. At practice I'm using a Trace Elliot head model RAH-130sm with the 7 band eq and a Trace Elliot single 15 cab (all early 80's made in the UK) and I can hear myself fine with the volume only at about 2, eq very close to flat. I have plenty of volume left on the TE head as its only on 2.

    We play classic rock (stuff bars will pay you to play) some blues and a few newer tunes that fit. Even with the drummer really banging I hear myself fine and don't see any need to turn up past 2. The first gig is an outdoor party we are playing to get our first crowd exposure and a chance to play through our three sets.

    The gear I have to choose from is this:

    early 80's Trace Elliot
    4x10 + horn

    SVT 210HE (made in usa)
    SVT18 (made in USA)

    Electric Blue 180 head

    I'll be taking two basses with me, a MIM Fender P bass with D'a Chromes flatwounds (medium gage) and an early 80's Guild SB-602 (shaped like a pilot bass with active electronics and EMG's) with D'a round wounds, also medium gage.

    The only things going through the PA will be vocals and its not a large PA, just the one we use for practice. I prefer a nice deep bass tone and can get it from pretty much any head/cab combo I own. Being a 3 peice band and my tone set for deep bass with just a touch of mid punch I cut through the mix with ease.

    (sorry if this reads like a lot of random thoughts, my grandson is here and he is 3 years old, need I say more?)

    Anyhow, which cabs and head would you use for this type of a gig?
  2. Personally I'd opt for the Ampegs but that's me. The room size and configuration is a factor you'll need to consider. If the room is small you can get away with less gear.
  3. SanDiegoHarry

    SanDiegoHarry Inactive Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    San Diego, CA
    outdoor? Bigger the better. No wall means you need MUCH amp. And remind your drummer to lay back a little - he'll get heard no matter what, but you will get SWALLOWED by all that space. Been there, done that!
  4. BassScum


    May 1, 2008
    So Cal
    I would bring the trace gear that you've already been playing through. If that's what you have been comfortable with practicing then I wouldn't change it. Especially if you already have the volume you need. You could however, bring the Trace 410 and stack on the 15. Don't use it unless you are not happy with the sound or volume. And if you are not, you can quickly plug it in. For your 1st gig I wouldn't take the chance and change anything up.
  5. Outdoor -- didn't see that in your post when I first replied.

    But I'd still opt for the Ampeg. That 1x18 is a beast and paired with the 2x10 will give you the top end.
  6. Rocks


    Mar 9, 2009
    Willoughby, Ohio
    I'm thinking of using both TE cabs and bring both heads. I can start with the TE head and the two cabs and if its not loud enough I'll try switching to the ashdown to see how much more volume I get, if thats not enough I'll run both heads, one into each cab. I am tempted to take it all just so I can get a pic of all my cabs in one place.
  7. totallybacan


    Mar 30, 2009
    I would just skip the ashdown and run the TE and Ampeg. It's outdoors, so the more the better. If you have too much, it's easier to turn down than turn up IMO
  8. fitz420

    fitz420 Knows Lows

    Oct 6, 2008
    Pittsburgh, PA
    +1 for TE and Ampeg. Not my 1st choice, but they do pair well together.
  9. Rocks


    Mar 9, 2009
    Willoughby, Ohio
    interesting that people are saying use the TE head with the ampeg cabs instead of the TE cabs.
  10. nysbob


    Sep 14, 2003
    Cincinnati OH
    I'd opt for the 18" outside with no PA support.
  11. rpsands


    Jul 6, 2007
    Take everything and run it all, daisychain the send jack on one amp to the return jack on the other. :)
  12. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Retired Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Outdoors I'd definitely send something to the PA, either a DI or mic.
  13. rbonner


    Sep 25, 2008
    Munji, if its a smallish PA they can't usually handle much bass. I think he'd be better off Y cording the rigs.

  14. Rocks


    Mar 9, 2009
    Willoughby, Ohio
    The party is outdoors, but our "stage" will be right inside the garage. When we jam there even with the door shut (not our normal practice space but handy for quick jams) people cooking out in their yards can hear us and often shout out requests.
  15. totallybacan


    Mar 30, 2009
    Oops when I said the TE and Ampeg, I meant both HEADs, and using one as a slave power amp. Sure, it can be bulky and people will complain about heavy, but when you're outside, if you want deep bass you WILL need power. It's physics.

    While I'm putting my flame suit on, if you have your own transportation and it is nearby, seriously consider getting a wall o' sound and trying it, say, an hour before you should be getting ready. This way you can have your drummer or guitarist double check all the levels. Again, it is easier to turn down than up.

    Alright, the flame suit is all zipped up :D
  16. Rocks


    Mar 9, 2009
    Willoughby, Ohio
    Thats why I didn't understand what you meant - one head is the TE the other head is an Ashdown. The cabs are TE and Ampeg.
  17. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Wait a minuet, if the stage is your garage, then you don't have to pack and carry anything. It's already there. Use whatever you want, and add/subtract on the spot.
  18. You have all that and you haven't played a gig?!
  19. Rocks


    Mar 9, 2009
    Willoughby, Ohio
    Its not all there, the garage is only a jam spot, practice is at the gui****'s house and some of the gear is here at my house. It is spread over three locations so I don't need to carry anything for practice aside from my bass.

    I haven't played a gig since the 80's. I have been gathering this gear over the last few months. I go such a sweet deal on the two ampeg cabs that I couldn't pass it up - $200 for the SVT 2100HE and the SVT18, both in great shape, how could I pass that up?
  20. Jostein


    Mar 17, 2004
    Bodø, Norway
    And don't forget to bring extra strings, picks, cable and strap ... for your guitarist. :D