flanger before or after dirt?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Unemploid, Dec 5, 2014.

  1. flanger before dirt

    5 vote(s)
  2. flanger after dirt

    53 vote(s)
  1. i'm just curious where do you have your flanger in the the chain.
  2. gregmon79

    gregmon79 Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    After for me. Always. THat way the dirt gets saturated with flanger. NOt the other way around. Thats how I like it anyway. The flangers twists, turns and swooshes are much more prominent if dirt is going into it. Its like my wah, I like it at the end of my chain so I can envelope my whole board practically. I think a wah sounds absolutley horrid before dirt/fuzz. I use that same principle with flanger pretty much.
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  3. SunnBass

    SunnBass All these blankets saved my life.

    Aug 31, 2010
    Columbia, Mo
    There is no right way, there is no wrong way.
    There is only what your ears tell you is correct.
  4. millahh


    Sep 20, 2005

    Actually, I run mine in parallel to my dirt, though I have the option to flip a switch and have my distortion/fuzz go into my flanger. I like having the grit from the dirt (Blower Box) co-existing with, but independent from, the movement of the flanger (Vortex).
  5. Huh. That's a pretty compelling argument. I selected "before", because that's how I've always had my effects set up - modulation before dirt - but reading this, I may need to try and flip a few things around...
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  6. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    Which flanger pedals do you all use?
  7. "flanger before or after dirt?"

    Yes, definitely. Before OR after.

    Was using my M5, but it's humming like crazy now, so something's gone awry with it.
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  8. gregmon79

    gregmon79 Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    I used to use the Boss BF3 which I liked quite a bit. Now I use the Source Audio Orbital. I'll admit I don't use flanger that much anymore, I prefer chorus or phaser but to me they're sort of the same effects. Sort of. I use them all the same way anyway.
  9. millahh


    Sep 20, 2005
    I use a TCE Vortex; I mostly leave it set to the Petrucci toneprint. I used to run a Boss BF2B, and really liked it, but wanted a little more flexibility (and a slightly narrower pedal, so I could fir more on the board!). Knowing what I know now, I could have easily stayed with the Boss, as it covered all the ground that I now need. However, I am perfectly happy with the Vortex.
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  10. Sometimes I like the effect of dirt after a modulation pedal. But I play bass for a noise band so there's that aspect of my input...
  11. danosix


    May 30, 2012
    As a rule - modulation after distortion - but that depends on what you want you may like the sound of Flanger first - especially if your "dirt" is just like OD to give a bit of "amp grit".
    My first thought (after spouting the "rules") is - how often do you have BOTH on at the same time on bass? Generally both take away from the low end, so two of them on at once will tend to make you disappear in the mix. Not a criticism, just surprized. If you don't actually use both at the same time than order doesn't matter and you can then put them in the order that suits your feet better (the one you kick most often in easier reach).
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  12. FrenchBassQC

    FrenchBassQC Supporting Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    Gatineau QC CA
    After for me too, no modulation effects before the dirt pedals IMHO.
  13. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    I'm running a Boss BF-2. Mine is after dirt as well.
  14. AaronVonRock


    Feb 22, 2013
    Rule of thumb says after dirt but like others said, you gotta move stuff around and see what you think sounds best.

    I just recently bought a Pigtronix Fat Drive because it was 50% off. I put it before my octave and filter but it didn't sound that great with the other pedals. Then I put it after everything and it sounded really good (to me).
  15. rjovin

    rjovin Supporting Member

    May 27, 2011
    Tampa, Fl
    i just bought back my boss bf-3. sold it to the guitar player in one of my bands, tried a few others that i didn't like and bought the bf-3 back.
    also, dirt before flanger for me.
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  16. Wow, so Zen. So you gonna answer his question, now?

    I put my phaser and chorus after my overdrive.
  17. Ballin'bass


    Jun 16, 2014
    Madison, WI
    The sound of a flanger after dirt is generally always clearer and more dynamic. If you add dirt after it, it takes away from the depth and clarity of the modulation and muddys things up.

    As for what kind of flanger I prefer, I haven't tried a whole hell of a lot of them but I got my EHX electric mistress xo years ago and have never really wanted anything else. The sound is huge and can be set anywhere from barely noticeable to all out wonky craziness. Also it has a mode where you can manually set the flange to a specific point in the cycle and freeze it there to have a crazy metallic frozen flange sound. Very very cool. Not to mention the independently mixable chorus adds a beastly amount of dynamic!
  18. Mooer Eleclady. Cute little pedal, sounds great too.
  19. smperry

    smperry Administrator Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    I prefer the sound of dirt (preferably fuzz) into flanger. Source Audio Orbital at present.
  20. Flanger, chorus,delay, reverb prefer after fuzz. Phaser and envelope sometimes before sometimes after.