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Flatwounds and sealed cabs

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by OOD, Jan 6, 2017.


  1. OOD

    OOD

    Jul 29, 2009
    Does using flatwounds have any negative effects on sealed cabs. I doubt it would, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
     
  2. They only sound dull and lifeless is all! :(
     
  3. 2saddleslab

    2saddleslab Supporting Member

    May 30, 2003
    Kentucky
    Flats and sealed cabs have been my setup for 30 years. If they didn't work well together I'd of changed 30 years ago.
     
  4. OOD

    OOD

    Jul 29, 2009
    More than with a ported cab?
     
  5. They’re even worse with a ported cab! :(
     
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  6. OOD

    OOD

    Jul 29, 2009
    I happen to love flats as much as I do rounds. It's the sealed cab I'm considering getting. The way you described it makes me want a sealed cab more.
     
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  7. OP in actuality if you like what Flats bring to the table then use them. They won’t harm your cabinets any more than WW would.

    In January 1968 I bought my Precision. It arrived sans strings which was fine by me as I immediately installed Rotosounds. The bass is long retired but reading about flats and the B15 I dragged it out and installed a set of flats. A couple of notes and I remembered why I had left flats behind all those years ago. Wires did mess up the frets as, in 1963, Fender were using a thin, soft fret wire. I had the neck dressed and switched to GHS Brite Flats which had the sound, almost, of wires but without the wear on the frets.
     
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  8. honeyiscool

    honeyiscool

    Jan 28, 2011
    San Diego, CA
    Sealed cabs in my mind make flatwounds better because they have more clarity.
     
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  9. markjazzbassist

    markjazzbassist Supporting Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Cleveland, OH
    I enjoy sealed cabs and flatwounds. have both in my rig currently (and have had them in previous rigs for a while). I think they pair well together, tube head makes it the holy trinity :)
     
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  10. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY

    )Not speaking to the OP) - If they sound dull and lifeless then why does every round wound player say my sound is so good? Why did Steve Harris use them? Cliff Williams? Yeah if you only have one bass then stick with whichever strings you like. If you have two and one is a P, flats give a great option punch the fundamental right through the mix minus all the overtone muckety muck.

    OP: Rock them through any cab you have friend.
     
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  11. ScottTunes

    ScottTunes Gear-A-Holic

    Feb 7, 2011
    So Cal
    Hofner with flats, tube head (or good substitute, i.e. RH750) and a 215 sealed cab is my favorite setup!! I have several basses strung with flats, and all sound good with sealed cabs.
     
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  12. amper

    amper

    Dec 4, 2002
    US
    Maybe in your hands, they do. Not in mine. Tone, as they say, is in the fingers.
     
  13. amper

    amper

    Dec 4, 2002
    US
    Flatwound strings will not harm any kind of cabinet, sealed or otherwise. The only thing flatwounds can possibly harm is the neck of your bass, since they require higher tension, and if your bass isn't constructed robustly enough, you may have problems with the neck. As Fender basses were originally designed to use flatwound strings, if you play a 4-string Precision or Jazz Bass, you are unlikely to experience any issues with flatwound strings.

    I highly recommend Rotosound Jazz Bass 77 flatwound Monel strings. They are all I use on my StingRay. On my Corvette Proline, I use nickel wound, steel core cello strings, which are also flatwound, D'Addario Prelude.
     
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  14. OOD

    OOD

    Jul 29, 2009
    How dead will those rotos get? What are the mids like?
     
  15. ScottTunes

    ScottTunes Gear-A-Holic

    Feb 7, 2011
    So Cal
    Flats last 10 times as long as round wounds! That is partly why they are more expensive.

    I've a set of Optima Chrome flats on my P-bass that is 12 years old and still feel/sound great (Pyramids also last forever and sound great).

    There are medium tension flats that won't disturb the neck.

    ALL 50s basses, and most 60s basses came with flatwound strings! It wasn't until John ("The Ox") Entwistle began stealing piano strings for his bass did we had round wound strings in the mid-to-late 60s! Haha! Roto-Sound worked with him to create the modern round wound bass string (as we know them).
     
  16. amper

    amper

    Dec 4, 2002
    US
    I don't know. I haven't changed them in years. Because they are Monel strings, they are highly corrosion resistant. But, over the years, with all the diffferent basses I've had, I've tried TI Jazz Flats, D'Addario Chromes, Ernie Ball flats, and maybe others. I've liked them all, but I like the Rotos best.

    One really nice thing about the Rotos is they come is six-string sets, as well as different tensions, so if you want to play around with fifths tunings or anything out of the ordinary, you can probably put together a set with balanced tension.
     
  17. Coolhandjjl

    Coolhandjjl Supporting Member

    Oct 13, 2010
    Appleton
    Roto 77s are great strings no doubt, but their high tension was not comfortable for me. To solve that, I tuned to DGCF.
     
  18. JGbassman

    JGbassman Supporting Member

    May 31, 2011
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    I've not tried the rotosounds, but I like the brightness of the diaddario chromes.

    I'm not a huge fan of flats, and I honestly only like them on one bass, a '55 p bass replica with a Prima guitars custom wound hot single coil pickup. That bass is the punchiness sounding bass I have. It sounds great through both a sealed or ported Ampeg and GK cabs.
     
  19. monsterthompson

    monsterthompson The Eighth Note Wonder Of The World Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2008
    Hollywood
    "Flats" and "sealed" are not enough data points. There are so many variables in the string brands and models, and cab brands and models, that generalizing is only generalizing. Through in technique, style, amp, pickups, and pedals, and it all changes.
     
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  20. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Correct answer.
     
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