flatwounds on a jazz fender artist series

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by nickname, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    would it be recommended to use flatwounds on my fender jazz precision?
    i use a pick, and as far as i understand, flatwounds arent for pick players and dont have as much of a high tone to it.
  2. Obviously, you have not listened to Sir Paul McCartney.
  3. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    I recommend that everyone own at least one bass with flats. It's a cool sound. And that bass is as good as any. As far as using picks on flats, that was a major sound in the 60's. Not only McCartney but Carol Kaye and half the guys in England did it.
  4. Juniorkimbrough


    Mar 22, 2005
    Mississippi / Memphis, TN
    Endorsing Artist: Lakland Basses
    personally i love the sound of playing flats with a pick. my main bass, fender jazz, is strung up with Chromes and I play 75% of the time with a pick.
  5. I use TI Jazz Flats on my Jazz bass
  6. canopener


    Sep 15, 2003
    Isle of Lucy
    Or Phil Lynott. I love his P-Bass gritty grind with his flats. Must've been using Roto's...
  7. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Phil used Rotosound Swing Bass roundwounds.
  8. bigtexashonk

    bigtexashonk Supporting Member

    My sound is rather old school, but I've got Thomastik Jazz Flats on a Precision, Jazz and an Epiphone Casady. Incredible tone with pick or without, and the feel is supreme comfort.
  9. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Saint Louis, MO USA

    I actually prefer flats with a pick. Roundwounds can very very bright when picked. I equate rounds and a pick to that very aggressive punk/metal/heavy modern sound.

    Flats retain a little of that rounder, slower blooming attack even when picked. It is much less harsh to my ears. Very old school. There a ton of players using picks on those famous recordings from the 60s and 70s, but you don't really associated it with the "pick" sound because they are playing flats.
  10. dougjwray


    Jul 20, 2005
    Here are a few fine "old school" examples of flatwounds with pick:

    "Good Vibrations"--The Beach Boys (Carol Kaye on bass)

    "Taking it to the Streets"--The Doobie Brothers (Tiran Porter on bass)

    "Midnight Confessions"--The Grassroots (Joe Osborn on bass)

    "A Little Help From My Friends"--The Beatles (Sir Paul on bass)

    The Doobie Brothers track is especially interesting because of the really gritty, punchy bass sound.
  11. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    what brand of flatwounds would you recommend with a fender jazz precision. syemor duncan pickups.

    i currently use ernie ball super slinkys, which as far as im aware are roundwound strings correct?

    what would you reommend for stretching out fresh strings on the same day as a show. I broke one last night (better then, and not at the show) so i gotta get new ones, and figured id try the flatwound.
  12. dougjwray


    Jul 20, 2005
    You can do a search of the forum and find lots of recommendations, but my personal favorites are D'Addario Chromes and GHS Precision Flats.
    To stretch the strings the day of the show, you can string the bass up, tune it, and just play it for a half hour or so, tuning again every few minutes. That should do it. Flatwounds are stiffer (higher tension) than roundwounds, so you may find that the de-tuning problem is less pronounced. Some people like to grab the strings one at a time, down by the pickups, and yank them gently. That stretches them, too, but I prefer to just play.
    By the way, if you've never played flatwounds, the stiffer feel might come as a bit of a shock. Make sure you warm up sufficiently before that show, to prevent hand fatigue.
    Hope this helps!
  13. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    i saw someone mention that i will have to change my neck tension.. is this true.. if so how and how much
  14. dougjwray


    Jul 20, 2005
    After the strings are on for a little while, like maybe a couple of weeks, you can lower the action yourself to where it feels comfortable. I really doubt you'll have to mess with the truss rod, but if so, you can tighten it by turning clockwise. IMPORTANT: tighten in very small increments, like one quarter-turn, and then wait a day or two to see whether that quarter-turn has been sufficient. It takes a while for the tightening to show an effect, and you can do serious damage by tightening too much, too quickly.
    As I said, though, lowering the action will most likely be enough, and you may not even want to do that if you like the feel of the new strings. I've gone back and forth from roundwounds to flatwounds on the same bass without any adjustments. Oh yeah, you do need to check the intonation, especially if the gauges are different!
  15. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    so i've put on some ernie ball custom gauge flatwounds. 45-100.

    althought ive notice that when i play note on the high end of the frets they are in the same tune. for example playing a chord an octave higher is out of tune, but in the lower end its fine.

    any ideas?

    im assuming your going to say inotation... how do i fix that?
  16. dadodetres


    Dec 19, 2004


    check out the setup forum......
  17. nickname


    Jan 22, 2005
    so im adjusting the intonation but there seems to be no change. i have me e saddle almost all the way out, and still its in the same "sharpness"

    what am i doing wrong?
  18. SGT. Pepper

    SGT. Pepper Inactive

    Nov 20, 2005
    Flats+Pick+compression Pedal= One helluva kick-ass tone!