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Floating Bridges

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by merlin, Sep 24, 2001.


  1. Ok, this may seem like a bassist thread but its not, i don't think. :rolleyes: well i can move it if its wrong mmkay!

    I was given a Primus video and noticed Les Claypool has a Floyd Rose Bridge and tremolo bar. I was discussing this concept with my guitarist and we thought that such a setup wouldn't be possible because of the tension on the strings etc, and wouldn't the neck surely bend by putting the strings under such stress when "soloing out" with the whammy bar?

    And so too, by using such a bridge, is it possible to put it on say my 5 string? (if i could afford even a chocolate bar! damn i'm broke!) Would it be possible to modify any such bass guitar to accomodate a floating bridge system? or is it all purely custom this and modified that?

    Just curious. Has anyone got this/done such a thing? Or am i completely oblivious and just illusioned in my own bass world?

    :D:D

    Merls
     
  2. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I thought these were what the Engineers brought up, when the permanent ones had been "bombed out"? :confused:
     
  3. I saw a bassist on Saturday Night Live once who used a tremolo on his bass. Not alot, but at the end of the song he used it for a really cool 'diving' note.
    I have actually searched for bass tremolo's and didn't have much luck. One company, can't remember the name, starts with a K I think, that makes some of the Floyd Rose type units used to make bass units but had discontinued them or something. I ran accross a few of this online from various shops.
    What I want is a Bigsby style unit that I can mount on my Univox.
     
  4. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    I have seen a few bass tremelos. I know Kahler has built them in the past. I have never seen FR for bass.

    I have never played them, but my observation would be suspect. I would be conserned about string tension for sure. Even most guitar tremelos don't stay in tune well. I can't imagine a bass version. It just doesn't seem right.

    As for the mods. I would guess almost any solid wood body could be modified to take the tremelo. But if you have ever seen how a guitar tremelo works, you know that the routing is pretty extensive. Take into account the length and size of the springs that would be needed to create the proper tension in a bass version, and you can plan on routing away about 20 percent of the wood of you bass body. Then drilling some mighty good sized holes in your neck for a jumbo-size lockdown nut.


    If you find a bass tremelo and and decide to install it. Your bass could never be restored to anything like what it was before.

    I would also expect to pay at least $150-200 for the installation and about the same for the tremelo.
     
  5. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    Wow. was I ever off on the price. $325!!!! I still say it'll cost $150 for the installation, that is enough cash to buy a pretty decent bass!!!


    Good luck.
     
  6. How about just getting a really cheap bass with really deep cutaways?
    Then you could get the tremolo effect.
     
  7. Ahh so it wasn't just me showing my lack of Setup heehee.

    My guitarist has a really expensive ibanez with a floyd rose bridge and that stays in tune for like the whole show.

    I was impressed tho, the tremolo dive notes are pretty funky sounding on a bass tho. I reckon it should be more common (and therefore cheaper), but yeah i guess the tension would play a massive part. Can u imagine a 11 string conklin with floating bridge and tremolo! :eek:

    Merls
     
  8. Victor Wooten also has a Kahler trem on one of his Foderas.. he does some pretty interesting stuff with it while soloing.
     
  9. Dean_CustomJazz

    Dean_CustomJazz Guest

    Jan 23, 2002
    woburn
    The khaler tremelo is great, i have one myself. What answers the question, it doesn't float. the bridge itself has rollers, when the bar get pushed down, it brings the rollers foward, causing a dive. So why so expensive? $325!!!? the rollers have to go back to the original position, so there is a reseter on the tremelo. thats why. I have a link to purchase them if you want them. it is true bout the whole change thing. Once you install it, it changes your bass, so think before you put it on. I think it was the greatest thing ever, bright tone, awsome affects, and killer sustain. email me, Frog_skins@hotmail.com for the link!
     
  10. boomerang

    boomerang Guest

    Dec 9, 2001
    Canada
    I read in an interview Claypool's tremolo was a custom addition, but an addition he did himself. He did afterall have that thompson since he was a kid.. correct me if im wrong
     
  11. Wow when did this thread get a resurgence??

    :D:D

    Merls
     
  12. Dean_CustomJazz

    Dean_CustomJazz Guest

    Jan 23, 2002
    woburn
    I have a rear roller, les claypools is a vintage front roller, and you are most certainly are correct, never would i compare my self to les claypool