There has been a lot of confusion on TB for some time about the relationship between f-Clef Basses and Fodera, so, when I was at the Fodera shop this past Wednesday (getting one of my Monarch's adjusted) I asked Joey what the real deal is... This is all directly from him and hopefully will clear up some of the misinformation that crops up from time to time. 1. Presently the ONLY relationship between Fodera and f-Clef is that f-Clef is a distributor of Fodera basses (I bought a Yin Yang through f-Clef in early 2008). 2. The Fodera NYC basses and the f-Clef basses are NOT the same instruments and are not manufactured by the same people. The NYC bass is Fodera's own design and Vinny and Joey have been working on and refining it for 15 years. 3. There was a period of time where Fodera was assembling the f-Clef basses for f-Clef because at that time f-Clef did not have their own shop...this is no longer going on. Hope this helps!